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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Single Stage to Orbit <alex.buell@munted.eu> Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Re: Porting VMS versus building a new spacecraft Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 22:46:00 +0100 Organization: One very high maintenance cat Lines: 18 Message-ID: <29e879c282e9c63d64c0b74f911b1a357f5dcb93.camel@munted.eu> References: <v3uurv$22ir0$2@dont-email.me> <v47m3u$jvdd$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: alex.buell@munted.eu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 00:01:11 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f1d5f330b96183d9c16e6b498add150e"; logging-data="697686"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18KVi884LCHPzShGtfynivnAuf5+QZXnRE=" User-Agent: Evolution 3.50.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:Dn7LY0XecR3oiKTSC83kGzMZn/o= Autocrypt: addr=alex.buell@munted.eu; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata=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 oM21NnHfo7RohDWVnYxAbHrErJjrym5yRxgWN0ccrsoeza/8m+G+my78KFVUtoTn9QmDDtaHrp7I2XGZ4r8rpvtCBxg4IFUqHg0ESI2/4pHw8n4uyD9e7yuZ+0zsLzMhloNEZ8ABe2/peVeir9eEVGqXTmixiLgVvPkTBi6xa4FmTqG3m0woUz8BXzCT1hoHtTPQ4UxGgcp8ITPUy1dJKUsqqY1uPSuLA06tGPQj7w/0j1HTuyct5NNHFDpDvrQdi/qr4CEk3WVWAEiv+d07DumSKnb6k5OySXSK128/oE2FXKsM1gNgFpK2SqEqfylxpAtJmRWNcV7Dyaqci22xRgBnU9X5iC2N9eXvaliEkEGBECAAkFAkSBefECGwwACgkQE/TNcxSCX46DQQCdH57pYA1kE373R9WsUN6+OXpqD8gAn0oKFduLKG48YhT7256Jo/7ZDeSU In-Reply-To: <v47m3u$jvdd$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 4445 On Mon, 2024-06-10 at 16:02 -0400, Stephen Hoffman wrote: > > It occurred to me yesterday that Elon Musk has been able to build > > and successfully fly (mostly) a new rocket and spacecraft in less > > time than it has taken to port VMS to x86-64. :-) >=20 > The "move fast and break things" technical strategy employed at > SpaceX tends to be decidedly unpopular around here.=C2=A0 =F0=9F=9A=80=F0= =9F=92=A5 Once past > its initial development, Falcon has been a very solid platform. How > that works for Starship? Not so well for Boeing. Numerous issues with their StarLiner despite being paid billions, whilst SpaceX got the job done for far less. Perhaps there's something to be said for that development model, as long as there's a strong focus on safety.=20 --=20 Tactical Nuclear Kittens