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Le 24/01/2025 à 23:11, clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) a écrit 
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> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 22:24:04 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> 
>> On 1/23/2025 2:20 PM, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
>>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 21:47:25 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 18:05:49 +0000, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is said that simple people are sometimes impressed by glass baubles.
>>>>>> How do cheap and stupid, fallacious ideas violating basic logic attain
>>>>>> prestige values and become marketed at universities for fortunes? The
>>>>>> reification fallacy is an elementary fallacy and a foolish error that a
>>>>>> child would know better than. However, we find universities convincing
>>>>>> people that ideas involving this error are highly intelligent, such as
>>>>>> expanding and bending space. Then, people uncritically and
>>>>>> thoughtlessly
>>>>>> embrace these ideas without a second thought. This is very pathetic,
>>>>>> slavish, and avoidable.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> They become marketed at universities for fortunes by the ...'textbooks
>>>>> monopoly'.
>>>>>
>>>>> (of course the teachers textbooks come with the answers)
>>>>>
>>>>> You need to investigate the 'textbooks monopoly' cartel.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The cabal decides what they want you to think.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How many planets are there? Who decides the answer for you? A cabal.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> The really amusing thing is that people are intellectual weaklings who
>>>> couldn't reason themselves out of a paper bag, or they wouldn't accept
>>>> curved space for a second.
>>> Did you ever acknowledge my point that Einstein should have understood
>>> that parallel lines would have to meet for space to curve? Isn't it
>>> stupid as hell not to recognize that? If he had been an honest and
>>> forthright person, he would have said we have to presume that parallel
>>> lines meet to claim space is curved, and this is our derivation for the
>>> doubling of the Newtonian deflection. Then, every reasonable person
>>> would have balked at such an irrational assumption and recognized him as
>>> a foolish fellow.
>>
>> Think of drawing two horizontal lines on a spheres surface. They will
>> never intersect.
> You presume space can be treated as a surface. That is a petitio
> principii. You presume it's curved to conclude it's curved. It's not a
> surface and its not curved.

Your "petitio principii" is that a 3D space, or a 4D space-time can be 
"curved" the same way a surface can be. Why that?