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From: Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
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Subject: Re: Fake Job Offers
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2025 14:24:35 -0700
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On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 06:16:52 -0400, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 3/17/2025 1:06 PM, cyclintom wrote:
>> On Sun Mar 16 14:00:58 2025 Jeff Liebermann  wrote:
>>>
>>> More likely the job offer never existed and you conjured the incident
>>> to fortify your claims that a college diploma is worthless.
>>>
>>>
>>> True.  I have enough money to live comfortably, but not enough to risk
>>> the capital on investments.  Unfortunately, inflation had severely
>>> devalued my savings.  Investing might have helped, but I'm not willing
>>> to take the risks involved.
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't understand what you're trying to say.  Are you claiming that
>>> I'm gullible and therefore a poor investor?  There's no connection
>>> that I can see.
>>>
>>>
>>> You're not even a self-trained engineer.  Over the years, you've
>>> demonstrated a general lack of computational and analytical abilities
>>> in many aspects of engineering, electronics, physics, finance, etc.
>>> Maybe you can program microprocessor firmware, but in engineering,
>>> you're not sufficiently educated.  Still pushing your claim that PWM
>>> is used to test cables?  Have you fixed your arithmetic for counting
>>> the percentage of votes for each party in the 2024 election?
>>>
>>> I like this amazing fact:
>>> 08/14/2023
>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/kWFZ7_kUImI/m/ASDKnmbMBAAJ>
>>> "the best measure of horsepower is speed"
>>> Horsepower is a measure of power, which is the rate at which work is
>>> done.
>>>
>>>>
>>> Ummm...  I'm an EE and I don't know how to program in C.  Are you
>>> saying that in order to be considered an engineer, C programming is a
>>> required skill?
>>>
>>>
>>> Gibberish.  I can't decode that mess.  Instead of comma splice (with
>>> the commas missing), write something that can be understood.
>>>
>>>
>>> Not a problem.  I don't believe anything you say so I'm not likely to
>>> be mislead by someone claiming to rub elbows with CEO's, politicians,
>>> investment brokers and VIP's.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Liebermann, word salads get you nowhere. 
>
>Irony alert!!

Chuckle.  Notice that every time I introduce a new buzzword, Tom tries
to use it against me.  
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_salad>
"A word salad is a "confused or unintelligible mixture of seemingly
random words and phrases", most often used to describe a symptom of a
neurological or mental disorder."

>> Where is your resume and recommendsations? And YES modern electronics is virtually all digital and to be an EE you have to be able to program in C or another major programming language as you have proven with your lack of a career.
>
>Not necessarily - at least through the generation when Jeff was in the 
>workforce before he went out on his own.

During the 1970's and 80's, I was told that if I planned to keep my
job (as an RF engineer), I would need to learn how to program.
Everyone, including me, went out and bought various personal computers
for fear that we would soon be obsolete or replaced by a computer.
Everything will soon be computerized.  The problem was that all the
fear mongering was coming from the trade journals, media, PC
manufacturers and schools.  All of these had a financial interest in
selling computers and/or computer education courses.

I bought several computers (TRS-80, Vic-20, XZ80, IBM PC 5150) and
spent some time fighting their bugs and fixing their problems.  I
eventually asked several people in management if they would hire me to
do programming instead of RF design.  The answer was always " NO and
why did you ask?"  The problem was that they could hire a programmer
for half my salary and obtain results that were twice as good as my
best programming.  There were also something like hundreds of times
more programmers available than RF engineers, especially after
outsourcing to other countries gained traction.  I didn't find bidding
against offshore engineers to be good for long term employment.

After all that, I successfully resisted most attempts to convince or
coerce me into doing programming.

I don't know what the current situation might be as to requiring
design engineers to do programming.  I know it appears often on
employee and consultant hiring requirements.  I did most of my
consulting between 1981 and about 2010.  Having me do programming was
always involved in discussions, bids and proposals, but was not a
problem after someone was found to do the necessary programming.

>> Since you don't know the difference between a law of physics and application of it, no one should be surprised that you cannot tell that the direct application of horsepower is speed.
>
>Fine, but that's not what you wrote earlier. I'm sure jeff would agree 
>with "[a] direct application of horsepower is speed" rather than
>"the best measure of horsepower is speed"

Yep.  That's what I wrote.  Also, "the best measure of horsepower..."
rather confusing.  "Best" implies that there must be more than one way
to measure horsepower.  One can find different instruments to make the
measurements, but there is only one way to do the computation:
  Horsepower = Torque x RPM / 5,252
 
>> Jeff, stop trying to be an expert. You aren't and you're not fooling anyone. 
>
>he isn't fooling anyone because he isn't trying to. You, otoh.

I believe I've mentioned that I am not an expert in anything but that
I probably know more about engineering than Tom.  

>> And pulling a Krygowski and complaijning that I'm not using correct punctuation simply makes you look the fool you are.
>
>No, it shows you to be incompetent.

The surest sign of incompetence is when someone lies in order to
disguise his lack of ability.

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