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From: joes <noreply@example.org>
Newsgroups: sci.math
Subject: Re: The set of necessary FISONs
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 15:32:08 -0000 (UTC)
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Am Tue, 18 Feb 2025 16:15:47 +0100 schrieb WM:
> On 18.02.2025 11:08, joes wrote:
>> Am Tue, 18 Feb 2025 10:02:53 +0100 schrieb WM:
>>> On 17.02.2025 21:36, joes wrote:
>>>> Am Mon, 17 Feb 2025 20:40:47 +0100 schrieb WM:
>>>>> On 16.02.2025 21:56, Jim Burns wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/16/2025 6:18 AM, WM wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> All elements can be omitted.
>>>>>>> The set can be omitted.
>>>>>> The set is not an element.
>>>>> If every human has an end, then the human race need not have an end.
>>>> Exactly.
>>>>> If every human has ended, then the human race has ended.
>>>> If. Induction doesn’t prove that.
>>> But it is obviously true.
>> You can’t prove that humanity dies from the fact that every human dies.
> Correct! But if every human has ended, then humanity has ended.
No, the other way around: if humanity has ended, every human „has ended”.

>>> Induction, as applied by Zermelo and others, proves: If every element
>>> is created or described by induction, then the set of all elements is
>>> created or described by induction.
>> No.
> Here in sci.math we should adhere to mathematics.
Indeed.

>>> Further: If all elements of a set are subtracted, then the set is
>>> subtracted. What should remain?
>> Makes no sense. There is nothing to subtract the set from.
For every set M that doesn’t contain itself, M \ {M} = M.

>>> If every element of a set is countable, then the set is a countable 
>>> set.
>> What the fuck, absolutely not.
>>„If every natural is finite, then there are only finitely many 
>> naturals.”?
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Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math:
It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.