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Subject: Re: GrapheneOS or BraX3 Extreme Privacy Phones
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Date: Wed, 14 May 2025 22:58:40 +0200 (CEST)
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On Wed, 14 May 2025 22:07:57 +0300, Oleg Nazaroff <Oleg_Nazaroff@p700.f700.n50.z2.fidonet.org.ru> wrote:
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>Date: Wed, 14 May 2025 22:07:57 +0300
>From: Oleg Nazaroff <Oleg_Nazaroff@p700.f700.n50.z2.fidonet.org.ru>
>Subject: GrapheneOS or BraX3 Extreme Privacy Phones
>Message-ID: <MSGID_2=3A50=2F700.700_ce2aa520@fidonet.org>
>Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android
>...
>Hello, Fritz Wuehler.
>On 11.05.2025 02:24 you wrote:
> FW> tuta
spam
for three decades and counting, all active newsgroups have been occupied by
the usenet troll farm (ever since "eternal september" opened the floodgates
in the mid-1990s) . . . e.g. in other newsgroups it's much easier to filter
troll farm "regulars" that are typically not using remailers (by scoring on
overview and non-overview headers), but as this classic a.p.a-s faq reminds
subscribers, contributors posting through remailers may not be using custom
"from" headers (full or partial), but most newsreaders (dialog, tbird, etc.)
can use "ignore" flag [i] on sub-threads without ignoring the entire thread,
and i've found that responding to these "tuta-tor"/"tor-mailer"/"mail2tor"/
"mini-tor"/"crypto-tor"/"eelbash clone" trolls is in all cases unproductive
>Path: news...!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!news.eskimo.com!eskimo.com!turing
>From: turing+apas-user-faq@eskimo.com (Computer Cryptology)
>Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
>Subject: [FAQ] Welcome to alt.privacy.anon-server!
>Date: 27 Feb 2002 20:00:06 GMT
>Message-ID: <privacy/anon-server/faq/ptr-1-1014840007@eskimo.com>
>...
snip
>
>Date: 21 March 2001 12:00 Z
>From: turing+apas-user-faq@eskimo.com (Computer Cryptology)
>Subject: What do APAS readers expect?
>Summary: FAQ maintainer recommends on-topic text posts.
>
>APAS readers expect all the usual Usenet etiquette (don't attach
>binary, don't write in HTML, don't type in all capitals, think
>carefully before posting, etc.) that is available elsewhere. Also
>like other newsgroups, APAS has regular trolls who post messages to
>attract flames, i.e., angry or insulting replies. Show you recognize
>the troll by not taking the bait.
>Another unwelcome type of post is the test message. There are
>specific groups (e.g., <alt.test> or <misc.test>) available for test
>messages. Scanning <alt.test> for test posts has the added benefit
>that the results of others' tests are available as well.
>Placing trolls and test posts in a kill file may be slightly more
>difficult in APAS because many participants (even those who actually
>contribute) post anonymously. Some constructive participants post
>using a pseudonym.
[end quoted excerpt]
p.s. the "troll farm" is well-named...it's their job to incite trouble,
confusion, obfuscation, obstacles, entrapment and worse where they can
get away with it . . . "them" is the popular term, big brother, agents
in the system only doing their duty . . . avoid not evade is advisable