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From: mpsilvertone@yahoo.com (HarryLime)
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Subject: Re: I Met A Girl / Will Dockery
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 13:30:22 +0000
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On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 9:15:55 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

> On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 20:54:52 +0000, HarryLime wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 20:30:42 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:
>>> Faraway Star wrote:
>>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>> > >> I Met A Girl
>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>> > >> I met a girl
>>>>>>>>> > >> she came from California.
>>>>>>>>> > >> It was in a dream
>>>>>>>>> > >> we knew each other instantly.
>>>>>>>>> > >> She was a little freckled girl
>>>>>>>>> > >> from out of
>>>>>>>>> > >> my high school past.
>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>> > >> And she looked up at me
>>>>>>>>> > >> and talked real spacey.
>>>>>>>>> > >> I've forgotten her name
>>>>>>>>> > >> though she told it to me twice.
>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>> > >> We talked
>>>>>>>>> > >> a really detached situation.
>>>>>>>>> > >> She said years ago
>>>>>>>>> > >> I was so shy
>>>>>>>>> > >> she thought I was gay.
>>>>>>>>> > >> At this point I kissed her
>>>>>>>>> > >> and put my finger to her hole.
>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>> > >> And she looked up at me
>>>>>>>>> > >> and talked real spacey.
>>>>>>>>> > >> I have forgotten her name
>>>>>>>>> > >> though she told it to me twice.
>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>> > >> I don't know why it was
>>>>>>>>> > >> that I would think of her.
>>>>>>>>> > >> I made a couple of puns
>>>>>>>>> > >> about her name that made me blush.
>>>>>>>>> > >> But her softness in tone
>>>>>>>>> > >> made me feel all right.
>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>> > >> All I want to do
>>>>>>>>> > >> is get in contact.
>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>> > >> -Will Dockery / May 8 1982
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > > The official version of this poem.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > > Yes, that matters.
>>>>>>>>> > On y second read of this today, it captures that touch of Bukowski but
>>>>>>>>> is fully a Doc story... superb...
>>>>>>>>> Welcome back, Zod.
>>
>>>>>>>> I thank... good to be back...!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Great new art, by the way:
>
> https://imgur.com/gallery/hth2PQb
>
> https://imgur.com/gallery/BJgjm9m
>
>>>> Has reopening xxxxx xxxxx
>
> <Whining snipped>
>
>>> I don't control how these threads appear, Pendragon
>>>
>>>
>>> Both JLA Forums and Nova BBS have some weird things happening that
>>> breaks these threads like this, not me.
>>>
>>> Perhaps Retro Guy or the JLA administrator can fix the problem, perhaps
>>> not
>>
>>
>>>> Your poem is still extremely
>
>
> I've apologized to those that the crude language might have offended.
>
>>> I don't think so at all, as I've pointed out earlier, the poem is in the
>>> Erotic poetry genre, and the characters are influenced by Beatnik and
>>> 1980s new wave and punk rock zeitgeist of those eras.
>>>
>>> The poetry is a snapshot from 1982, very different times which you
>>> apparently missed, Pendragon.
>>
>>>> objectifying, insensitive
>
>>> Not at all, it's a very accurate depiction of a rock and roll romance
>>> circa early 1980s
>>
>> So you sexually assaulted a woman you barely knew
>
> No, Pendragon, again, you're either confused or attempting a lying
> misrepresentation.
>
> The events in the poem were based on a dream I had in May of 1982.
>
> As I've tried to explain to you at least a dozen times.

And as I've tried to explain to you, your poem depicts a sexual assault
on a "girl" in a positive light.

It doesn't matter if the assault happened in a dream.

Your poem is still presenting it as both acceptible and romantic
behavior.

-- Michael Pendragon

“It was very clear it was consensual in the poem.
For example, the girl didn't slap me or yell at me or anything.” – Will
Donkey

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