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From: bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor)
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Subject: Re: The Apollo moon landings
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2025 07:27:12 +0000
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On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 3:08:10 +0000, David Canzi wrote:

> On 6/12/25 22:09, Bertitaylor wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 19:19:48 +0000, David Canzi wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/10/25 22:28, Bertitaylor wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 19:37:11 +0000, David Canzi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/9/25 20:46, Bertitaylor wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 23:48:57 +0000, Peter Moylan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/06/25 09:21, David Canzi wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 6/9/25 18:10, Bertitaylor wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As they were on Earth they merely shuffled leaving deep prints.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you make stuff up about the evidence instead of looking at the
>>>>>>>> evidence, you can remain proudly wrong for the rest of your life.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Speak for yourself. The big fat impious footprints on the Moon were
>>>>>> shown as evidence for Moon landing
>>>>>
>>>>> I notice you deleted the link I provided you to a YouTube video
>>>>> that shows astronauts who were not merely shuffling, but were
>>>>> moving briskly.  And as a bonus, one of the astronauts stopped,
>>>>> then jumped up and down vertically.  From that jump it's possible
>>>>> to estimate the acceleration due to gravity, and it's way less
>>>>> than on the Earth.  Here's the link again.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://youtu.be/efzYblYVUFk?t=40
>>>>>
>>>>>> Arindam wondered why they were that deep. Surely some 50 Kg of thrust
>>>>>> spread out wide could not create that depth?
>>>>>
>>>>> How deep are they?
>>>>
>>>> Deeper than 115 Kg Arindam's prints upon a sandy by each.
>>>>
>>>> Explain how you estimated the depth of
>>>>> the footprints based on the image of them.
>>>>
>>>> See the length, should be 30cm. Looks like the depth is easily more than
>>>> 1 cm as that looks 1/30th of the length. Really deep.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How deep should
>>>>> they be?
>>>>
>>>> As they weighed with suits not more than 60Kg and as Arindam's prints on
>>>> sand is not more than 5 mm deep they should be say be no more than 3mm
>>>> deep.
>>>
>>> Beach sand on Earth doesn't have the same properties everywhere.
>>> On the beaches of Point Pelee, my feet sank deeply into the wet sand
>>> at the edge of the water.  At Lion's Head Beach my feet didn't leave
>>> any visible impression on the wet sand.
>>
>> Obviously you will get pretty deep in swampy land and watery beaches.
>>
>> But there is no water on the lunar surface.
>>
>> It is dry like the sand in Mungo, an ancient Aboriginal site. Once wet
>> now dry. Looked like the lunar surface.
>>
>> Arindam's feet made very little impression on it. Footprints were barely
>> seen.
>>
>> WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof
>>
>> Bertietaylor
>
> You forgor ro respond to this:

Let us see...
>
>>> I've taken a look at a boot print image from the moon, and find it a
>>> challenge to figure out how deep the print actually is.  It would
>>> help to know how far above the horizon the sun was when the photo
>>> was taken.

The length was 300 mm. As it is really deep it has to be at least 10mm.
>>>
>>> The footprint contains a very clear impression of the boot's treads.
>>> I doubt that you would see that if you walked in boots over dry
>>> beach sand anywhere on Earth. 

Not if you weighed with that suit about 250 Kg along with the piano
wires attached to a lofty crane thumping you done.


 Sand or dust on the surface
>>> of the moon has not formed by the same processes that have formed
>>> sand on Earth, and so you can't assume it has the same properties.

It is dry, so nothing swampy. One should hardly see footprints when one
weighs with suit some 50 Kg only.

WOOF

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