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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Some bicycle paths... Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2024 16:01:43 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 51 Message-ID: <2dn2aj1c08smba89072e8ie2nf2s691lar@4ax.com> References: <j4hp9j16530107kqsgkps1n08885i9ebei@4ax.com> <8x8nO.350505$Liga.24156@fx15.ams4> <8c7s9jl8bej1lbmiipnnkh40g7pgq9om75@4ax.com> <jZvnO.192691$kXJb.24670@fx03.ams4> <9bdt9jpjs0ioq8ip18o0nd10mlon5akhse@4ax.com> <OuNnO.242206$J6gc.228181@fx09.ams4> <moev9jtvq9198p73n6k53078adr05ikjb5@4ax.com> <tmhv9jl28kiomod2ht5vrbjmr6kd8u0d43@4ax.com> <v7qe8n$1liqa$4@dont-email.me> <dkk1aj5e39d0iu8sjr937fhnk1j6t6biea@4ax.com> <l1p1aj9vhplp4r2qqb2seed6dmmdvletls@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2024 22:01:45 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f1ae481081cf13e56bc9095729962534"; logging-data="1991009"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+8L/FCcxlDcvlp17MirlxaeThAys/DnbM=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:3goi9NEmO7cvjVGXv0/9wGbHNho= Bytes: 3554 On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 19:10:00 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote: >On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 06:12:12 -0400, Catrike Ryder ><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote: > >>On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 10:33:27 +0200, Rolf Mantel >><news@hartig-mantel.de> wrote: >> >>>Am 23.07.2024 um 17:14 schrieb Catrike Ryder: >>>> On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 16:58:12 +0200, Wolfgang Strobl >>>> <news5@mystrobl.de> wrote: >>>> >>>>> https://www.google.de/maps/@50.735366,7.1052758,3a,75y,345.37h,78.58t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1stSQFnCmubeCCT3NcbxPfwA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DtSQFnCmubeCCT3NcbxPfwA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.share%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26yaw%3D345.3653731279749%26pitch%3D11.420637510237043%26thumbfov%3 >>>>> D90!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205410&entry=ttu> >>>> >>>> I see a sign that suggets that bicyclists can ride there. I don't see >>>> anything that says you can't ride on the traffic lanes. >>> >>>The meaning of the round blue sign with a bicycle is "bicycles must ride >>>here and nowhere else". >>> >>>In France, by now they have two different signs: >>>Square blue sign with white bicycle: Bicycles can ride here. >>>Round blue sign with white bicycle: Bicycles *must* ride here. >>> >>>(I think at most 5% of the bike lanes in France now have the square sign). >>> >>>Rolf >> >>Thanks for the clarification. >> >>For the record, I oppose any laws that prohibits bicycles from riding >>on streets and roads other than limited access highways. > >But doesn't the building of bike paths imply that riding on the >highway is dangerious? And if riding on the road is dangerious >shouldn't it be banned? No, we don't need a nanny government. >After all, Frankie posted a chart showing numbers killed by various >weapons mass shootings and after separating the numbers into those >known to be killed only by "Semi-Automatic Rifle" were some 118, >while those killed on bicycles in 2022 amounted 1084. > >As Frankie feels that killing some 118 with a semi-auto rifle is >reason to ban the weapons then certainly killing 8 times that number >with bicycles must be reason to ban there use on highways, "Frankie" is a ninny-nanny.