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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: What is "local =?UTF-8?B?dGltZSI/?= Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 03:45:33 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <2efd75a85dc80d75d54ecfe4d61baf34@www.novabbs.com> References: <M0ZS0z9of5m3zPojotZe3TGunn4@jntp> <1aec54a219198abeee623f4762a3f105@www.novabbs.com> <17fead611f0d4f22$260472$844270$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> <GCRBkG15sYAgJq8IFpUGyd-0A1o@jntp> <17febd840835ea5f$313547$853305$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2234707"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="TRF929uvrTGZYJLF+N3tVBXNVfr/PeoSjsJ9hd5hWzo"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Posting-User: cefb4c33981645a229d345bae7bb8942e6b32c35 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$ud.J0lzNm/2oQx0O6wPFO.AXIwyQRf/m6dzRwM.SL9oNxut3CJclK Bytes: 2339 Lines: 31 On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:28:01 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote: > > W dniu 15.10.2024 o 22:29, Python pisze: > > > > Le 15/10/2024 à 18:32, Maciej Wozniak a écrit : > > > > > > W dniu 15.10.2024 o 14:52, gharnagel pisze: > > > > > > > > Before you talk about "local time" you must first understand > > > > "time." What is "time"? Or maybe, the question is: WHY is > > > > time? Does space have time, or do just masses have time? Is > > > > there more than one dimension of time? It appears to be a > > > > quantum thing/process; we use it, and are ruled by it, but we > > > > just don't know very much about it. > > > > > > It's not very complicated > > > > So explain. > > It is a coordinate. A purely virtual human > made abstract, having nothing in commom with > your precioujs nature. And with your > precious experiments. As usual, Wozniak is conflating two different concepts. Humans try to model nature, and since, for example, trees grow, die and decay, there is something in nature that changes. We call that something the passage of time. Clocks and coordinates and theories are ways that we model time. But they aren't time, just as the map is not the territory.