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Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: People Without Meaningful Lives Seek Power Over Others Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2024 20:59:24 -0700 Lines: 33 Message-ID: <2flfdj1h2os4knrg6g2pbrulhv9e5ramm2@4ax.com> References: <vanrf4$3j0ji$3@dont-email.me> <L%NzO.4114$eS_9.1269@fx04.iad> <6hbvcjtrl1gek09ti02oqkeg1u4kfkchfp@4ax.com> <vouvcjl5kp0fnpr6nuflf7047kekqngqco@4ax.com> <DboAO.129304$mtT2.54558@fx10.iad> <vat4tn$jt6b$1@dont-email.me> <hho4djh9vqs2p3d1b7820dpe7n4gdjt54k@4ax.com> <vavd17$12ae5$2@dont-email.me> <D1kBO.12$yWj9.9@fx12.iad> <ljm6vuF2tfpU1@mid.individual.net> <KZlBO.7285$FDd1.7244@fx18.iad> <64sbdj5854vibcfasjd9ttu9tikhmuhh34@4ax.com> <RKKBO.10257$if3c.2270@fx13.iad> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net uYGDJl/+4LlkxQ6T8FAGTAMoP3xe2XLMfZHiSBLHFFvjC4csDc Cancel-Lock: sha1:ewDj5W5w0zlg1zG7N62JWYmzSRI= sha256:W88VGog5KIoDpU7H82Tm8neo0mdew0v5YzPxUqGmWkA= User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Bytes: 2566 On Tue, 03 Sep 2024 20:57:21 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote: >I'm very sorry that you cannot think. Torx was actually developed >because people were weight saving by using aluminum screw and >Torx are far less likely to strip than Phillips or even Allen. Could I trouble you to find a reference that agrees with your amazing claim? When I was helping design marine radios, we were considering using Torx screws. However, the reason had nothing to do with weight. We wanted them because they worked well with pneumatic screwdrivers used in assembly. Also, Torx screws are specifically designed to NOT cam-out as is common with Philips head screws. Torx fasteners don't require any axial force to tighten (or loosen). That means you don't need to push on the fastener to use it. A Torx driver is capable of breaking the head off a Torx fastener or stripping the splines on small fasteners. For marine radios, we used all stainless fasteners, some of which were Torx. We had to use torque limiters on the pneumatic drivers to prevent breaking off the stainless head. Since I haven't tried it, I can only imagine what a pneumatic driver would do to an aluminum (alloy) Torx fastener. -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558