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On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:03:51 -0400, Ralph Mowery
<rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:

>In article <vbgm7r$16mcv$1@dont-email.me>, bill.sloman@ieee.org says...
>> 
>> >>> I think the original IQ test was for the military.
>> >>
>> >> Baloney.
>> > 
>> > Thank you for your thoughtful insights.
>> 
>> He happens to be right. The idea was invented in France in 1904 and used 
>> to sort educationally sub-normal kids so that they got the kid of 
>> educational help that they needed and could get some advantage out of.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>
>I wish that school when I went had a way to educate children in what 
>they were interested in.  I was great in math and science but could not 
>remember the people's named or dates in history and did very poor in 
>English.  I did go to two sumers of what was called enrichment studies 
>where we did not get graded but was exposed to many things that came in 
>hand in later life such as speed reading and general information about 
>other countries and some science. I really enjoyed those two years.  The 
>ones in that program were ones that seemed to be at the top of the 
>school class.

I went to one of the first fw "magnet" schools in the USA, with IQ and
achievment  tests to get in and they required minimum grades (72
average) to stay in. 

The freshman washout rate was about 20%. 

I was great at math and science, terrible at english, and basically
helpless in French.

I know for a fact that the staff met and fudged grades to retain the
kids with asymmetric talents. 

It's tragic to force kids to do things they can't, and tell someone
that they are a failure because that don't understand the symbolism in
Moby Dick, when they could be dynamite engineers or airplane
mechanics.