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Subject: Re: The Physics Behind the Spanish Blackout
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On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 16:37:28 -0700, Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid>
wrote:

>On 6/9/2025 1:44 PM, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2025-06-09 21:54, Don Y wrote:
>>>> OTOH, we're sticking with other technologies (fossil fuels -- coal -- and
>>>> nukes) despite obvious and yet to be solved problems INHERENT in their
>>>> technology.  Adding "inertia" synthetically to a network is a considerably
>>>> more realistic goal than sorting out how to deal with nuclear waste or
>>>> the consequences of burning carbon.
>>>
>>> Solar and wind can be made to impose a gigantic inertia with appropriate
>>> electronics. You can fixate the output at 50Hz, locked no matter what.
>> 
>> Only if the surplus energy is available to supply the necessary current.
>
>But that assumes the old usage model where the utility was the "tail" wagged
>by the consumer "dog".
>
>Going forward, expect to see a closer integration of load and supply
>management.  It's just silly to over-provision just to accommodate
>any *possible* demand when technology exists to predict and manage
>that demand.

Right. People shouldn't just be allowed to cook or do their laundry or
heat their houses whenever they feel like.