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On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 19:35:48 -0000 (UTC), danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
wrote:

>In <rm80oj1c9filnvhokppl5afldcba1el0op@4ax.com> EGK <memyself@null.net> writes:
>
>>On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 18:58:16 -0000 (UTC), danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
>>wrote:
>
>>>In <pu50ojla2af5rhitqg8db2labidg34qbio@4ax.com> EGK <memyself@null.net> writes:
>>>
>>>[snip]
>>>
>>>>Newsom claimed there was plenty of water but reports are water mains to
>>>>fight the fires ran dry.
>>>
>>>If you try really, really, hard, maybe you could figure out how
>>>opening 250 hydrants near the reserviour might cause some problems
>>>for the ones farther downstream.
>
>>So again, they were totally unprepared for this.
>
>damn, you're dumb

Right back at you.  People have been warning about this for years but like
always, a Democrat's mantra is "never take responsibility for anything".

https://nypost.com/2025/01/08/us-news/how-la-ran-out-of-water-in-the-middle-of-the-palisades-fire/

How years of corruption and mismanagement led to LA running out of water in
the middle of the Palisades wildfire
By Jared Downing
Published Jan. 8, 2025, 7:41 p.m. ET
As Los Angeles firefighters faced down the most destructive blaze in the
city’s history, they ran out of water.

“The hydrants are down,” a firefighter said over the radio, according to the
Los Angeles Times.

Another chipped in: “Water supply just dropped.”

Fire crews were forced to watch as entire blocks of the Pacific Palisades —
one of the most scenic and celeb-packed neighborhoods in LA — were
incinerated in a matter of hours late Tuesday and early Wednesday.

“There’s no water in the fire hydrants,” Rick Caruso, who owns the Palisades
Village mall in the heart of the devastated area, fumed to local media. “The
firefighters are there, and there’s nothing they can do — we’ve got
neighborhoods burning, homes burning, and businesses burning. … It should
never happen.”

The water shortage was the result of years of mismanagement of LA’s water
system — including a federal indictment of a leader and high-profile
resignations — as well as major operational problems that drained reserves
too quickly.

The Pacific Palisades fire, whipped up by hurricane-force Santa Ana winds,
destroyed more than 1,000 homes and businesses. By Wednesday night, it had
spread to 16,000 acres (25 square miles), bigger than the island of
Manhattan in New York — and crews had not managed to contain any of it.

LA residents voiced their outrage over the conditions that allowed the fire
— and two other blazes in Los Angeles County — to rage out of control. Five
people had died as of Wednesday night, several others were injured and at
least 70,000 were told to evacuate their homes across the LA area.

Adding insult, Democratic Mayor Karen Bass was 7,400 miles away in Africa,
and months earlier she had approved an $18 million cut to the fire
department.

“RESIGN! WHY ARE YOU IN GHANA?!,” one person commented on an X post by Bass’
office giving an update on the wildfires.

One angry Angelino told Fox News: “I’m born and raised in Los Angeles, I
spend my life worrying about when the earthquakes come, when the Santa Ana
winds come. I plan my trips around this. For someone to be in charge of my
town … where were you?”

A legacy of terrible fire management by the state of California and Gov.
Gavin Newsom also hangs over the smoky skies of LA.

LA’s water system simply could not handle the demands of the multiple blazes
— which was four times normal and lasted for 15 hours, Janisse Quiñones,
head of the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, told the LA Times.

The city has 114 massive tanks that store water and help ensure consistent
flow. All were full when the fire started Tuesday. Three 1 million-gallon
tanks supply the hydrants in the Pacific Palisades.

The first was empty before 5 p.m. The last was drained by 3 a.m. Wednesday,
Quiñones said.

Without the water tanks, the city’s system was simply not able to maintain
pressure to the hydrants.

The problem was not isolated to the city of LA.

Malcom Stewart, who lives near Pasadena, had not seen a single fire truck on
his street as he watched the Eaton Fire — a huge blaze east of Los Angeles —
swallow his neighbors’ houses one by one, creeping closer to his childhood
home.

The water supply to his house had been cut, leaving him and his brother
without so much as a garden hose to douse spot fires and keep the flames
from spreading to their property.

“The county did nothing. He’s literally out there with dirt and a shovel and
hope,” his wife, Charlene Stewart, told The Post, hours after she had lost
contact with him.

When the same thing happened in neighboring Ventura County in November,
humiliated officials blamed damaged pumps and overall lack of water —
despite backup systems and protocols that allow firefighters to draw water
from other sources, the LA Times reported.

In LA, those fail-safes should have been working, the hydrants should have
stayed full, and a water shortage on this scale “should never happen,”
Caruso, a former utility commission head and candidate for LA mayor, told
the newspaper.