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Subject: Re: ABC settles "rape" claim re: Pres. Elect.
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2024 10:16:00 -0500
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On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 12:27:30 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>On 12/25/2024 11:32 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 15:49:20 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 12/24/2024 7:36 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 11:43:15 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/23/2024 7:24 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 13:20:30 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/22/2024 10:26 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 21 Dec 2024 11:28:18 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12/21/2024 10:21 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 13:10:29 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/20/2024 6:59 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 12:19:59 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/19/2024 7:31 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 01:31:39 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/2024 4:28 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 11:57:19 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . . .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your President-elect forcibly finger fucked her.  Explain *that* fact.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump was not convicted of rape.  ABC said he was.  They lied.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> End of story.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In other jurisdictions it's considered rape/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But he wasn't in other jurisdictions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The harm to Donald Trump wws nominal. not $15 million worth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ABC obviously felt otherwise given that they caved so quickly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Umm... giant corporations don't piss off sitting Presidents, especially
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not one who's vengeance-driven.  It's bad business.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Enough about Biden.  What about Trump?  BTW Trump is not yet the
>>>>>>>>>>>> sitting President and it never stopped the media before so your claim
>>>>>>>>>>>> is ridiculous.  ABC was caught in libel and paid big time.  End of
>>>>>>>>>>>> story.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not the "end of story" just because you stop reading.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You're welcome to explain it us how a jury finding Trump not guilty of
>>>>>>>>>> rape makes him guilty of it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Laugher.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There's legal guilt, and then there's understood guilt.  Trump escapes
>>>>>>>>> the former only by a specific distinction in a specific jurisdiction.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good grief.  You can't state that someone was convicted of rape when
>>>>>>>> they weren't.  That's libel.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, if you knew they weren't.  And iirc he said "found *liable* for
>>>>>>> rape", not "convicted" ...which may have been raised as relevant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you now trying to say that Boy George gave an interview without
>>>>>> doing his homework?
>>>>>
>>>>> No, as I understand it, his homework was even done *for* him.  But he
>>>>> chose to describe Trump as harshly as possible.  It's unclear what
>>>>> verdict a full reckoning -- i.e., no "settlement" -- would've given.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To state that he was convicted of rape is not a description.  It's a
>>>> claim of fact, which is why ABC is paying big bucks.
>>>
>>> Again, he said "found *liable* for rape", not "convicted".  And, again,
>>> it's unclear whether that difference might've borne out as important.
>>>
>> 
>> He was not convicted nor "iiable" for rape.  The judge in the civil
>> case was wrong on the law as much as you are.  It's a shame you can't
>> sue judges cause that would be fantastic.
>
>Afaik, there's no definitive meaning of "found liable for rape".
>

Obviously ABC knew what that meant because they settled REALLY
quickly. Liable has a specific legal definition.  You're welcome to
find any legal reference where Trump was found legally liable for
rape.