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From: Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: Jamming Shimano Di2
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2024 11:21:17 -0700
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On Sun, 18 Aug 2024 08:58:05 -0400, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

>You misunderstand. I didn't write that it was simplex. I wrote that it 
>was originally intended to monitor sensors rather than dynamically 
>control another 'slave' device. Of course some handshaking is necessary 
>in order to pair the components and maintain the link. As the technology 
>and popularity of the protocol has grown subsequent versions gave more 
>versatility for more control. I know I read that history somewhere, but 
>It's not popping up in my searches right now.

This might be of interest:
"Shimano DI2 Wireless Reverse Engineered"  (March 22, 2019)
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25Kyh5im_ak>  (19:45)
Note that the Github page with the code is gone.  However, there are
some other interesting projects on his site:
<https://github.com/kwakeham?tab=repositories>
Following search results for "DiHack", I found this:
"DiHack.  Reverse Engineering the Shimano Private ANT Wireless
profile"
<https://github.com/cmoski/DiHack/blob/master/Onenote-notes.pdf>

>- Does wireless shift faster? yes, marginally.
>- Does wireless shift more accurately? Yes, but a properly set-up cable 
>system does just as well such that it's barely noticeable.

When races are won or lost by small fractions of a second, any
innovation that offers even a slight advantage is probably worthwhile.
Whether it's financially worthwhile depends on the sponsors
generosity.


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