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From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org>
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On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 08:11:26 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 6/18/2025 7:12 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>> On 6/17/2025 6:01 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>> On 6/17/2025 12:30 PM, cyclintom wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If someone enters your property with a gun, you are 
>>>> protecting your life even if they intend to only steal 
>>>> your car. I cannot tell the intentions of ANYONE 
>>>> assaulting me in any way.
>>>
>>> What if a person with a concealed carry license, or a 
>>> person in an open carry jurisdiction, carries his gun and 
>>> enters your property to ask directions? Would you really 
>>> blow him away?
>>>
>>> <https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/12/us/michigan-man-shooting- 
>>> at-teen-asking- directions>
>>>
>>> That kid didn't even carry a gun. But you seem to be 
>>> saying that if he had, the homeowner should have killed him.
>>>
>>> And of course, the kid is black.
>>>
>> 
>> At least he was found guilty, Such incidents many times have 
>> more dire consequences with fewer penalties.
>> 
>> https://web.archive.org/web/20180305202556/https:// 
>> www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1993/05/24/man- 
>> acquitted-of-killing-japanese-exchange- 
>> student/34a75a09-0a7b-468d-89c5-d6d8d7504f7c/
>> 
>> And of course, the shooter was acquitted of murdering a 
>> teenager dressed  for a halloween party.
>> 
>> "Hattori was dressed as John Travolta in "Saturday Night 
>> Fever" and was brandishing nothing more menacing than a camera"
>> 
>> but hey, louisiana....
>> 
>> then there's this:
>> 
>> https://apnews.com/article/hide-seek-shooting-louisiana- 
>> girl-neighbor-b59a1232f3fd309e1afd02174026fad7
>> 
>> "A Louisiana man faces aggravated assault and battery 
>> charges after firing a gun at children who were playing hide 
>> and seek outside his home, wounding a 14-year-old girl, 
>> according to the local sheriff’s office.....The girl 
>> suffered a gunshot wound to the back of the head early Sunday"
>> 
>> simple searches don't show what the result of the charges 
>> are. I guess he should be let go, after all, all he did was 
>> shoot a 14 year old in the head while she was running 
>> away....Small price to pay for paranoid white males to keep 
>> their deadly toys.
>> 
>> (and yes, andrew, we know you're going to counter with the 
>> 'hundreds of case where guns were successfully used in self- 
>> defense'...again, the deaths of a few innocent kids are a 
>> small price to pay for paranoid white males to keep their 
>> deadly toys)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>
>No one has been more clear than I on that subject.
>
>Deadly force is lawful to counter a credible threat to human 
>life, such as a home intruder at 3am. It is not reasonable 
>or lawful for imaginary situations or property, such as a 
>guy stealing hubcaps in the street outside. Or a child in 
>the yard.
>
>State Statutes are relatively uniform in that regard.

+1+

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C'est bon
Soloman