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On Fri, 06 Sep 2024 07:53:46 -0700, john larkin wrote:
>On Fri, 06 Sep 2024 11:27:38 -0400, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>
>wrote:

>>On Fri, 06 Sep 2024 07:53:46 -0700, john larkin
>><jlarkin_highland_tech> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I was driving and listening to the local mostly-annoying NPR radio
>>>station, but they had an interesting interview with a book author. It
>>>was about his novel or some poetry or something.
>>>
>>>What was interesting was his recalling a conversation that he'd had
>>>with his wife. She was takling about a plant or something and asked
>>>him to visualize it. He was astounded that she, or anyone, could close
>>>their eyes and *see* something they were thinking about. 
>>>
>>>I was shocked to learn that there are people who can't form a mental
>>>visual image.
>>>
>>>Close your eyes and consider a nice white ceramic dinner plate with a
>>>beautiful deep red apple sitting in the center. Can you see it? From
>>>the side and from the top? Do you see the stem? The colors? Imagine it
>>>slowly rotating? See the fruit fly?
>>>
>>>If the world is divided between people who can visualise and people
>>>who can't, that could explain a great deal.
>>
>>There are definitely such people, and I've met them.  The example that
>>springs to mind was a History Teaching Assistant I met in college in
>>the 1960s.  It turned out that he had been an EE Undergrad, and
>>discovered that he could not visualize the electrons in motion, unlike
>>his colleagues.  This TA was wise enough to know that this was
>>crippling - he would never be able to compete with those who could
>>visualize electrons.  So he switched to History.
>>
>>Joe Gwinn

>The statistics would be interesting, whether the non-visualization
>thing is common or maybe very rare. I'll have to google that some
>time.

>There is a small fraction of the population that don't like music, for
>example. That includes me. Some people absolutely can't remember
>faces. I know a guy who can only recognize people by their hair.

>I'd expect that among CE/EE graduates, good visualizers would tend to
>be more EE and less visualizers more CE. Things vs words.

>That would suggest a good interview question.

>I was drafted once (never served) and took a test to join the Marine
>Corps. One part involved looking at a flat thing with various squares
>painted with patterns, and then imagining a box that was folded up
>from the flat thing. I guess that visualizing things would be useful
>to a Marine.

>I think the original IQ test was for the military.

Baloney. I don't think I really visualize things. I don't see things floating
in front of me. I feel it. Sort of like closing your eyes and feeling an object in
your hand. I know it from all angles, its insides and outsides, its texture, 
its solidity, its weight... It's kind of the sculptor versus the painter but
that is the information a good painter is getting across in his painting. I don't
have problems with 3D puzzles. In high school, I had study class with the teacher
who taught remedial students. One day there were all these 3D puzzles out that 
they used to test these kids cognitive ability. I walked over and solved them all
in a couple of minutes. I didn't realize I had done anything special. I thought
I just played with the toys. Until I turned around and saw the teacher staring at 
me. A couple of them no one had been able to solve.