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Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: The most ridiculous science mistake in history. Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2024 14:48:11 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <321e5265d8de0bce57ba3d670f4fe968@www.novabbs.com> References: <1qqxctr.cx8smcpwxnigN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> <1qqz0eh.1kx2ym5reuvw4N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> <uts53j$15lls$1@tor.dont-email.me> <q8idnXA4CcQwH577nZ2dnZfqlJydnZ2d@giganews.com> <f4d39e6afdf238c1b1fb9a9f2bebf257@www.novabbs.com> <d1856c41b933a869d8b41167f9e9f5a9@www.novabbs.com> <6403242eef319f70cc36457a41e7dcd7@www.novabbs.com> <dfc50f6cf3a7019458f3b14c3664e872@www.novabbs.com> <uuh8iv$39f3c$4@dont-email.me> <1926fd4d8c8841583c903a8e308f6fab@www.novabbs.com> <l77afkFf5g6U1@mid.individual.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="72800"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="t+lO0yBNO1zGxasPvGSZV1BRu71QKx+JE37DnW+83jQ"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$ujHBNfqhsx2wmd5pOfVZEO9yydg6SNlpEwGNMnMKRP4LOFsfmqNHS X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Posting-User: 47dad9ee83da8658a9a980eb24d2d25075d9b155 Bytes: 4467 Lines: 63 Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: > > On 2024-04-04 02:42:01 +0000, gharnagel said: > > > > Irrelevant baloney, but Wozzie-boy's religion is the moronic one. > > And yours? The other day you criticized me for referring to "Dr" > Hachel's most obvious lies rather than addressing his statements about > physics. If I know he's lying about he claims to have seen on > television, why should I believe what he says about physics? So the criticism hurt? Sorry about that, but you criticized my paper, DOI: 10.13189/ujpa.2023.170101, based solely on irrelevant "facts." (1) The fact that you had many more citations than I did and (2) four out of more than 30 of hrpub's journals were cited for "abuse" of one sort or another (but not UJPA). So (2) is "guilt by association" and (1) is snobbishness, I guess. As for "Dr" Hachel, sometimes he sounds almost reasonable, and that gives me hope that he's reachable, but then he dashes hope with his usual assertions. You and he have something in common: neither of you have degrees in physics but both of you feel free to denigrate those who do. The difference is Hachel comes up with his own crazy theories and tries to defend them by attacking those who disagree with him while you try to "shoot the messenger" rather than criticizing the message, apparently which is outside your field of expertise. If you're really interested in learning about the tachyon debate, I would encourage you to read some recent papers by Charles Schwartz: https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~schwrtz/PhysicsPapers/65_Symmetry_14_1172.pdf https://physics.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/schwartz.pdf https://arxiv.org/abs/2209.10520 You don't have to understand everything to get the gist of what he's saying and develop your own feeling about its correctness. That is what you should have done with my paper, too, and mine's a LOT easier to understand than Schwartz's. After all, most people read a paper's abstract and conclusions first. If it seems of more than passing interest, they'll read the introduction and then, if more interest is generated, they'll really dig in. Does this approach seem familiar to you? I had respect for a few people who have posted on these discussion groups: Tom Roberts, PCH (the aliased one) and you, among them. I lost a lot of respect for PCH when he invented incorrect "reasons" for criticizing my paper. He obviously doesn't understand the first thing about the case for tachyons. My own paper had one major goal, which I believe was attained: If tachyons were found to exist, they would not violate causality. It took four years to get there and it involved overcoming many objections. The conclusions section actually lists five conclusions, which wreck some "beliefs" about tachyons held by the scientific community (negative energy, causality violation and the reinterpretation principle). I hope your interest in what you criticized will lead you to trying to understand the issues rather than shooting blindly :-))