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Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes <noreply@example.org> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2024 12:39:05 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <323257d7133cbe48708dfbbd509db649e3a60ad4@i2pn2.org> References: <vg7cp8$9jka$1@dont-email.me> <vhpnrb$15239$1@dont-email.me> <vhs2gn$1kjtc$1@dont-email.me> <vhs4ue$1ku9t$1@dont-email.me> <vhv6or$280s6$1@dont-email.me> <vhvbjb$28n6o$1@dont-email.me> <vi1dbj$2moon$1@dont-email.me> <vi224l$2pgrd$1@dont-email.me> <vi4383$3csd4$2@dont-email.me> <vi4a6c$3dt4s$2@dont-email.me> <vi6p1l$3uoti$1@dont-email.me> <vi6unr$3v0dn$5@dont-email.me> <vihd3l$2d9fk$1@dont-email.me> <vihfai$2cnof$1@dont-email.me> <vijrru$37ce1$1@dont-email.me> <vikh9k$3cua3$1@dont-email.me> <viml28$6j3$1@dont-email.me> <0b1bb1a1-40e3-464f-9e3d-a5ac22dfdc6f@tha.de> <95183b4d9c2e32651963bac79965313ad2bfe7e8@i2pn2.org> <vj6vhh$elqh$2@dont-email.me> <33512b63716ac263c16b7d64cd1d77578c8aea9d@i2pn2.org> <vj9s4i$11a3p$1@dont-email.me> <vjam6d$1700v$1@dont-email.me> <vjc65g$1i9vk$3@dont-email.me> <vjf7kl$2s7e5$1@dont-email.me> <vjfmq3$2upa9$3@dont-email.me> <vjjh0o$3u5ec$1@dont-email.me> <vjjkds$3ukck$1@dont-email.me> <vjmd21$hq8s$1@dont-email.me> <vjmepr$hk44$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2024 12:39:05 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2955082"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3324 Lines: 33 Am Sun, 15 Dec 2024 12:33:15 +0100 schrieb WM: > On 15.12.2024 12:03, Mikko wrote: >> On 2024-12-14 09:50:52 +0000, WM said: >>> On 14.12.2024 09:52, Mikko wrote: >>>> On 2024-12-12 22:06:58 +0000, WM said: >>>> is Dedekind-infinte: >>>> the successor function is a bijection between the set of all natural >>>> numbers and non-zero natural numbers. >>> This "bijection" appears possible but it is not. >> So you say that there is a natural number that does not have a next >> natural number. What number is that? > We cannot name dark numbers as individuals. Shame. > All numbers which can be > used a individuals belong to a potentially infinite collection ℕ_def. > There is no firm end. When n belongs to ℕ_def, then also n+1 and 2n and > n^n^n belong to ℕ_def. And thus all n e N do. > The only common property is that all the numbers > belong to a finite set and have an infinite set of dark successors. If all successors belong to N_def, it can’t be finite and the successors can’t be dark. > This is the only way to explain that the intersection of endegments > E(1), E(1)∩E(2), E(1)∩E(2)∩E(3), ... > loses all content in a sequences which allow the loss of only one number > per step. The explanation is that the sequence is infinitely long. -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.