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From: hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel)
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Subject: Re: The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit.
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2025 15:46:44 +0000
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On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 13:29:23 +0000, rhertz wrote:
>
> gharnagel , answer the following question, as you love so much
> relativity and LCE:
>
> You have a 1 Watt green laser (with an attached battery) placed in the
> top of a pole of 100 mt.).

I have no idea what a "mt" is.  A hundred mountains?  A metric tonne?

> It's turned ON for just one second, expending 1 Joule.
>
> On the ground, a receiver (with an attached battery) absorbs such energy
> entirely, and waste it as HEAT.

Why do you believe heat is waste?  It may not be.

> This set (laser-receiver) operates in vacuum. Assume that this
> experiment is performed on the Moon.
>
> From WHERE comes the EXTRA ENERGY created along the downward path of 100
> meters, and that equals to:
>
>    Energy gain = 1 Joule x 100MG/(R^2 c^2)
>
> M and R are the mass and the radius of the Moon.
> This PROBLEM exists since 1911 (Einstein's gh/c^2).

Don't you realize that it would exist even using Newtonian physics
if you left out the fact that you didn't include ALL of the energy
input?

> As you can see, the conservation of energy in such an isolated system IS
> VIOLATED.

Apparently, I see more than you do :-))

> From where does the extra energy that appeared due to the blue shifting
> of the laser beam in 100 meters?
>
> Relativity DESTROY the Law of Conservation of Energy, and nobody said
> shit about it.

That's because everybody has more intelligence than you :-)))

> The same happens with relativity and LCM.
>
> Go ahead, EXPLAIN THIS VIOLATION OF THE LCE.

There is no violation.  You have ignored an energy input: The laser
is at a higher gravitational potential than the receiver.  Either
ignorantly or intentionally, you have ignored that potential energy
energy in your calculation.  Total energy is H = T + V.

In your situation, T = 0 but there is still V.  Consider a modification
of your experiment.  The laser is sitting on a lunar mare and shoots
its pulse horizontally to a lunar rover with a receiver.  The mare is
flat so V = 0, but the rover is moving toward the laser and receives
a blue-shifted pulse.  Where did the extra energy come from?  Doppler
shift, of course: T > 0.  Whether the Doppler shift is due to relative
velocity or gravitation, energy is conserved.

"By denying scientific principles, one may maintain any paradox."
-- Galileo Galilei