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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.karotte.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: People Without Meaningful Lives Seek Power Over Others Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2024 16:07:00 -0700 Lines: 64 Message-ID: <34i4djhnc1la1ljl50qr3194k0mpcs27si@4ax.com> References: <7knrcj5q82pse9ce8hjo458kkf0jfadh35@4ax.com> <h2vscjlvas4pdkj1clutgm2ehcli4drpe6@4ax.com> <tc7ucjl2or9ves52ik1ku4d4dl1055addu@4ax.com> <van784$3fmps$3@dont-email.me> <sEIzO.81262$Oqi9.29478@fx16.iad> <vanrf4$3j0ji$3@dont-email.me> <L%NzO.4114$eS_9.1269@fx04.iad> <6hbvcjtrl1gek09ti02oqkeg1u4kfkchfp@4ax.com> <vouvcjl5kp0fnpr6nuflf7047kekqngqco@4ax.com> <DboAO.129304$mtT2.54558@fx10.iad> <vat4tn$jt6b$1@dont-email.me> <LLpAO.175028$Oqi9.131585@fx16.iad> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net faVyhX+fL2QHaLJaCs6a5wIN2jsUJmCXeLujD9iCw5AAtqxxlA Cancel-Lock: sha1:BVvJT58+Lex9iNWLR7MokGZ4pMU= sha256:PIupunqTuB4l5wzjz1uaMtFp6Y1NHBHuFVuZfA+TsJY= User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Bytes: 4167 On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 20:15:39 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote: >Did you read that? They are the "manufacturers of last resort". >There was nothing on a B52 that they could reproduce. >No electronics parts, no engine parts, and certainly no airframes >parts. I worked on the second floor of a huge hanger where >they would tow aircraft inside to replace engines in foul weather. >This hanger could hold four B52's. All of the munitions were in >concrete bunkers miles away. All of the maintenance shops were >in this hanger and there was no machine shop. You ALWAYS used >factory replacements. All modern aircraft are that way. > >What's more, this was the site where the B52 was developed. >Even Boeing didn't have a machine shop there. Oddly, I've never seen an aircraft hangar with a "second floor". There were a few for small general aviation planes, with the airplane on the ground floor and offices on the 2nd floor, but nothing big. Maybe a loft, but nothing bigger. Google Images doesn't find anything with a second floor: <https://www.google.com/search?q=B-52+aircraft+hangar&udm=2> <https://www.google.com/search?q=aircraft+hangar+loft&udm=2> Where was this hanger where you worked where the B52 was "developed"? Your vague description sounds more like where the B52 might have been "produced" (Seattle or Wichita) and not "developed". Oddly, neither location appears on your online resume where you only claimed to have been at Lowry AFB for training in the "US Air Force Technical School". "Parts producers: Tinker’s machine shops are invaluable" <https://www.tinker.af.mil/News/Features/Display/Article/388818/parts-producers-tinkers-machine-shops-are-invaluable/> "To say four machine shops within the 76th Commodities Maintenance Group are important is an understatement. They are essential; they are the "manufacturers of last resort."" "Employing 140 machinists -- plus nearly 340 personnel in support jobs -- in three shifts, the four shops work to meet their customers' demands." ""There are not many companies out there that do what we do," Mr. Tornello said. "People should know there's a facility here that can make anything they need. We keep the warfighter flying; no matter what it is, how long it takes, we have the ability, people and technology to produce parts."" The "manufacturers of last resort" are there because the Air Force does not have the time to send every part they need out for competitive bidding or wreck production schedules with emergency parts orders. This might help: "Boeing B-52 Stratofortress Owners Workshop Manual" <https://haynes.com/en-au/boeing-b-52-stratofortress-manual> It's out of print and used books, in good condition seem to be selling for $100. -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558