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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes <noreply@example.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: What I told ChatGPT is essentially identical to the first page of my paper Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2024 08:39:38 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <3570d58cf5fea3a0a8ac8724b653d1596447d0d1@i2pn2.org> References: <vf3eu5$fbb3$2@dont-email.me> <6fa1774ec1e4b13035be3eab85555b609b301d69@i2pn2.org> <vf3os0$hqgf$1@dont-email.me> <de0c3b304ab574b45594ec05085c193fd687f9f7@i2pn2.org> <vf40l9$ja0c$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2024 08:39:38 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2999698"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 2303 Lines: 26 Am Sun, 20 Oct 2024 17:36:25 -0500 schrieb olcott: > On 10/20/2024 4:41 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 10/20/24 4:23 PM, olcott wrote: >>> On 10/20/2024 2:13 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>> On 10/20/24 1:33 PM, olcott wrote: >> Note, I DID tell that to Chat GPT, and it agrees that DDD, when the >> criteria is what does DDD actually do, which is what the question MUST >> be about to be about the Termination or Halting problem, then DDD WILL >> HALT since HHH(DDD) will return 0 to it. > No one ever bother to notice that (a) A decider cannot have its actual > self as its input. lolwut? A decider is a normal program, and it should be handled like every other input. > (b) In the case of the pathological input DDD to emulating termination > analyzer HHH the behavior of the directly executed DDD (not an input to > HHH) is different than the behavior of DDD that is an input to HHH. DDD *is* the input to HHH. > The executed DDD calls HHH() and this call returns. The emulated DDD > calls HHH(DDD) and this call cannot possibly return. But whyyy doesn't HHH abort? -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.