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From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org>
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On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 22:42:31 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On 4/21/2025 5:14 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 4/21/2025 12:43 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>> On 4/21/2025 1:26 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>> On 4/21/2025 12:22 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 11:01:48 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/21/2025 7:44 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>>>> ...I, a tourist, had
>>>>>>> to explain to taxi drivers that I wanted to go where there were no
>>>>>>> tourists. Unfortunately, that resulted in some late night walks back
>>>>>>> to the boat. I would not do that again in today's world.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SO much fear!
>>>>>
>>>>> Really? So, at your age, you'd be perfectly happy to walk, alone at
>>>>> night, through unfamiliar neighborhoods in a foreign country?
>>>>>
>>>>> If you answer "yes," you're either a liar or a moron.
>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> https://www.azfamily.com/2025/04/19/man-rips-victims-eye- out-random- 
>>>> attack-east-phoenix/
>>>
>>> That's a typical response from you, Andrew. You found _one_ scary 
>>> story, out of how many peaceful, unremarkable nighttime walks every 
>>> day around the world? You can't really be pretending that incident is 
>>> representative of the actual level of risk! How many attacks per 
>>> million nighttime walks do you think actually occur?
>>>
>>> That's aside from the fact that the timid tricyclist specified 
>>> "foreign country." But Phoenix is in _this_ country. I'm pretty sure 
>>> the foreign countries that I've visited have all been shown to be 
>>> safer, on average, than America.
>>>
>>>
>> That was in the morning news, one of several similar across the nation 
>> this weekend. As usual.
>> 
>> https://www.aol.com/news/alabama-dad-jacob-couch-dies-050914741.html? 
>> guccounter=1
>> 
>> https://cwbchicago.com/2025/04/man-gets-4-years-for-shooting-younger- 
>> brother-he-was-tired-of.html
>> 
>> https://nypost.com/2025/04/19/us-news/brute-who-hit-ny-post-reporter- 
>> still-on-lam-after-double-stab/
>
>Yes, and you're digging back into events that happened as much as four 
>years ago.
>
>If you dig deeply enough, you can find many thousands of such stories. 
>What you're ignoring is the denominator - the 300+ million people in 
>America, almost all of whom made it through the weekend with no assault, 
>no trauma at all.

Many of them owned guns and had them in their homes.

>You're pretending the half-a-handful of scary stories you managed to 
>dredge up by internet search are the norm. They are not, and pretending 
>they are common just adds to the paranoia and fear of the timid crowd.

Pretending that having a gun in your home is dangerous just adds to
the paranoia and fear of the timid crowd.

>It's as silly as the former Safe Kids Inc. advice: "No child under age 
>10 should be allowed to cross a street alone" or "No child should play 
>outside without adult supervision."

Another Krygowski strawman.

--
C'est bon
Soloman