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Subject: Re: ABC settles "rape" claim re: Pres. Elect.
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On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 13:18:31 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>On 12/20/2024 7:07 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 12:24:55 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 12/19/2024 7:29 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 07:50:15 -0800, suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/18/2024 4:28 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 11:57:19 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/17/2024 7:31 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 12:40:22 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12/16/2024 7:22 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Dec 2024 16:54:39 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
>>>>>>>>>> <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> George Snuffalapogous had stated Mr. Trump (not President
>>>>>>>>>>>> at that time) had been found guilty of "rape", when, well,
>>>>>>>>>>>> we all know the legal technicalities and definition and
>>>>>>>>>>>> specific legal issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> He did not say "guilty".
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 	Donald Trump has been found liable for defaming the victim of
>>>>>>>>>>> 	that rape by a jury. It's been affirmed by a judge.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The NBC Blue Network will pay $15 million to... his
>>>>>>>>>>>> Presidential library...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-abc-george-stephanopoulos-lawsuit-defamation-b2664508.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not buying what the judge wrote last year that the plaintiff proved
>>>>>>>>>>> "rape" as commonly understood by the public even though no rape had
>>>>>>>>>>> occurred using the legal definition of "rape". The jury was asked to
>>>>>>>>>>> make a specific finding of "rape" and they said no. She still won the
>>>>>>>>>>> case on other points even if not on that point. The judge was wrong to
>>>>>>>>>>> second guess the jury here on the finding they made on a specific set of
>>>>>>>>>>> facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>      From your cited article:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "�Donald Trump has been found liable for defaming the victim of that
>>>>>>>>>> rape by a jury,� Stephonopoulos said on ABC�s This Week at the time.
>>>>>>>>>> �It�s been affirmed by a judge.�
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Juries in New York found Trump liable for defaming and sexually
>>>>>>>>>> abusing E Jean Carroll after he repeatedly called her a liar for
>>>>>>>>>> speaking publicly about allegations that he assaulted her in the
>>>>>>>>>> 1990s. Trump has appealed the nearly $90 million in judgments against
>>>>>>>>>> him.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Last year, the judge overseeing those cases wrote that Carroll�s
>>>>>>>>>> failure to �prove that she was �raped� within the meaning of the New
>>>>>>>>>> York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr Trump
>>>>>>>>>> �raped� her as many people commonly understand the word �rape.��
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> �Indeed, as the evidence at trial ... makes clear, the jury found that
>>>>>>>>>> Mr Trump in fact did exactly that,� US District Judge Lewis Kaplan
>>>>>>>>>> wrote."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Honestly Trump has a case against the judge as well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What redeeming aspect of Trump's character did George falsely besmirch?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you need the facts of ABC admitted lie explained to you, you're not
>>>>>>>> worth the bytes it would take.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your President-elect forcibly finger fucked her.  Explain *that* fact.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trump was not convicted of rape.  ABC said he was.  They lied.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> End of story.
>>>>>>
>>>>> In other jurisdictions it's considered rape/
>>>>
>>>> No one cares.  He was charge and found not guilty.
>>>>
>>>> End of story.
>>>
>>> Well, you're right that not many care about the technical 'not guilty'.
>> 
>> It's not technical.  It's fact.  Trying to spin otherwise is engaging
>> in technicalities.
>
>It's a fact that NY law makes a misleading technical distinction.
>

Laughter.

Go ahead and explain it for us.