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From: clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen)
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Subject: Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious =?UTF-8?B?QmF1Ymxlcz8=?=
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2025 21:39:20 +0000
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On Sat, 25 Jan 2025 21:23:51 +0000, Python wrote:

> Le 25/01/2025 à 22:14, clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) a écrit
> :
>> On Sat, 25 Jan 2025 2:33:23 +0000, Python wrote:
>>
>>> Le 24/01/2025 à 23:11, clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) a écrit
>>> :
>>>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 22:24:04 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/23/2025 2:20 PM, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 21:47:25 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 18:05:49 +0000, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is said that simple people are sometimes impressed by glass baubles.
>>>>>>>>> How do cheap and stupid, fallacious ideas violating basic logic attain
>>>>>>>>> prestige values and become marketed at universities for fortunes? The
>>>>>>>>> reification fallacy is an elementary fallacy and a foolish error that a
>>>>>>>>> child would know better than. However, we find universities convincing
>>>>>>>>> people that ideas involving this error are highly intelligent, such as
>>>>>>>>> expanding and bending space. Then, people uncritically and
>>>>>>>>> thoughtlessly
>>>>>>>>> embrace these ideas without a second thought. This is very pathetic,
>>>>>>>>> slavish, and avoidable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They become marketed at universities for fortunes by the ...'textbooks
>>>>>>>> monopoly'.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (of course the teachers textbooks come with the answers)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You need to investigate the 'textbooks monopoly' cartel.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The cabal decides what they want you to think.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How many planets are there? Who decides the answer for you? A cabal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The really amusing thing is that people are intellectual weaklings who
>>>>>>> couldn't reason themselves out of a paper bag, or they wouldn't accept
>>>>>>> curved space for a second.
>>>>>> Did you ever acknowledge my point that Einstein should have understood
>>>>>> that parallel lines would have to meet for space to curve? Isn't it
>>>>>> stupid as hell not to recognize that? If he had been an honest and
>>>>>> forthright person, he would have said we have to presume that parallel
>>>>>> lines meet to claim space is curved, and this is our derivation for the
>>>>>> doubling of the Newtonian deflection. Then, every reasonable person
>>>>>> would have balked at such an irrational assumption and recognized him as
>>>>>> a foolish fellow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Think of drawing two horizontal lines on a spheres surface. They will
>>>>> never intersect.
>>>> You presume space can be treated as a surface. That is a petitio
>>>> principii. You presume it's curved to conclude it's curved. It's not a
>>>> surface and its not curved.
>>>
>>> Your "petitio principii" is that a 3D space, or a 4D space-time can be
>>> "curved" the same way a surface can be. Why that?
>> What are you trying to ask or say? How can space be curved? It can't be
>> curved at all. That is the reification fallacy.
>
> Because you say so? LOL.
That is not what I said. Why is it not a reification fallacy? Because
you say so? It is, by definition, a reification fallacy because it
confuses the abstract with the physical. What are you saying is curved?
Vacuum? A field?