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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.quux.org!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery) Newsgroups: alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems Subject: Re: Dharma Bums Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2025 04:42:47 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <37232462e6d383f810556061895fc439@www.novabbs.com> References: <qtgrva$vob$1@novabbs.com> <2ceab6f2-76bb-4802-a0a8-4ed212dec053@googlegroups.com> <56aaeb6a-50eb-458b-abc1-186e70cde8ad@googlegroups.com> <6cc4c7c3-f65e-48ae-a114-6f5598ef6f0e@googlegroups.com> <cca011db-0f9d-4bf6-9a92-2e5e42cc369b@googlegroups.com> <bed454f7-dc62-4b5d-b5c4-4281adf94c27n@googlegroups.com> <23cf43dff2f193076418a4422059e0f5@news.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1198058"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="Vf9CM7g99yqfGvzEHTw0bhrjcIfvzYBBhUuRma0rLuQ"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Posting-User: acd0b3e3614eaa6f47211734e4cbca3bfd42bebc X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$x87m7GYnweLctZt/QVwLje0qNk9/r5ldh3p88uO6EmbIPsjEy3zYa Zod wrote: > >> Will Dockery wrote: >>> General Zod wrote: >>> > >>> > > > > > > > > I consider myself a latter day Dharma Bum............ > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dharma_Bums > >>> > > > > > > > > ***************The character Japhy drives Ray Smith's >>> story, whose penchant for simplicity and Zen Buddhism influenced Kerouac >>> on the eve of the sudden and unpredicted success of On the Road. The >>> action shifts between the events of Smith and Ryder's "city life," such >>> as three-day parties and enactments of the Buddhist "Yab-Yum" rituals, >>> to the sublime and peaceful imagery where Kerouac seeks a type of >>> transcendence. The novel concludes with a change in narrative style, >>> with Kerouac working alone as a fire lookout on Desolation Peak >>> (adjacent to Hozomeen Mountain), in what would soon be declared North >>> Cascades National Park (see also Kerouac's novel Desolation Angels). His >>> summer on Desolation Peak was desperately lonely. "Many's the time I >>> thought I'd die of boredom or jump off the mountain," he wrote in >>> ''Desolation Angels.''[2] Yet in the more eloquent ''Dharma Bums," >>> Kerouac described the experience in elegiac prose. >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Down on the lake rosy reflections of celestial vapor >>> appeared, and I said 'God, I love you' and looked up to the sky and >>> really meant it. 'I have fallen in love with you, God. Take care of us >>> all, one way or the other.' >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > The blend of narrative with prose-poetry places The >>> Dharma Bums at a critical juncture foreshadowing the >>> consciousness-probing works of several authors in the 1960s such as >>> Timothy Leary and Ken Kesey.[citation needed] >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > One episode in the book features Smith, Ryder, and Henry >>> Morley (based on real-life friend John Montgomery) climbing Matterhorn >>> Peak in California. It relates Kerouac's introduction to this type of >>> mountaineering and inspired him to spend the following summer as a fire >>> lookout for the United States Forest Service on Desolation Peak in >>> Washington. >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > The novel also gives an account of the legendary 1955 >>> Six Gallery reading, where Allen Ginsberg gave a debut presentation of >>> his poem "Howl" (changed to "Wail" in the book). At the event, other >>> authors including Snyder, Kenneth Rexroth, Michael McClure, and Philip >>> Whalen also performed********** >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Where does the "dharma" come into your existence >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Thomas_Idlet#Later_years >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Thomas met his fourth wife, the poet Philomene Long in 1983 at >>> a poetry reading.[5] The couple were inseparable in his last years, and >>> Thomas dedicated his final poems to her.[6] >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > He said she "resurrected him." They lived together on the edge >>> of American society, maintaining a lifestyle of "living poor" based on >>> the ancient Zen recluse poets. "I would feel uncomfortable and irritable >>> living any other way. I have Philomene, a pen, a pad, shirt and pants. >>> If you start wanting more, it fills you up, leading to a poverty of the >>> heart and mind."[citation needed] >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Thomas spent the sunset days of his life in his house in >>> Venice Beach and reading while sitting under a sweet gum tree on the >>> grounds of the Zen Center of Los Angeles. >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=++ >>> > > > > >>> > > > > The above description fits Zod quite closely. >>> > > > >>> > >>> > ************************* >>> > ****** Dharma is a concept of moral living ********** >>> Learn what it means to be a Dharma Bum before you attempt to correct >>> Zod, who is actually living the life: >>> >>> “Happy. Just in my swim shorts, barefooted, wild-haired, in the red fire >>> dark, singing, swigging wine, spitting, jumping, running—that's the way >>> to live. All alone and free in the soft sands of the beach by the sigh >>> of the sea out there, with the Ma-Wink fallopian virgin warm stars >>> reflecting on the outer channel fluid belly waters. And if your cans are >>> redhot and you can't hold them in your hands, just use good old railroad >>> gloves, that's all.” -Jack Kerouac, The Dharma Bums > >> Quite a good quote, Doc...! > > Good morning my friend, this is interesting, video from Shaun Crane > coming soon: > > Address for Jack Kerouac house in Saint Petersburg: > 5169 10th Ave. North > > https://www.tampabay.com/arts-entertainment/arts/books/2019/10/22/jack-kerouac-found-the-end-of-his-road-in-st-petersburg-50-years-ago/#:~:text=The%20late%20author%20Jack%20Kerouac,Pete%20in%201964. > > ... Fascinating information, Zod.