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From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a
 new basis ---x86 code is a liar?
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 18:44:26 -0500
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On 11/12/24 9:49 AM, olcott wrote:
> On 11/12/2024 8:23 AM, joes wrote:
>> Am Tue, 12 Nov 2024 07:58:03 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>> On 11/12/2024 1:12 AM, joes wrote:
>>>> Am Mon, 11 Nov 2024 10:35:57 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>>>> On 11/11/2024 10:25 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>>> Am Mon, 11 Nov 2024 08:58:02 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>> On 11/11/2024 4:54 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2024-11-09 14:36:07 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>>> On 11/9/2024 7:53 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> The actual computation itself does involve HHH emulating itself
>>>>>>> emulating DDD. To simply pretend that this does not occur seems
>>>>>>> dishonest.
>>>>>> Which is what you are doing: you pretend that DDD calls some other
>>>>>> HHH that doesn’t abort.
>>>>> DDD emulated by HHH does not reach its "return" instruction
>>>>> whether HHH aborts its emulation or not.
>>
>> No. When the HHH that simulates DDD aborts, it also means that the HHH
>> that DDD calls aborts, 
> 
> In no case does DDD emulated by any HHH that aborts at
> some point or not
> 
> does the emulated DDD ever reach its "return" instruction
> final halt state.
> 
> Disagreeing with verified facts makes you ignorant or
> dishonest.
> 
> 

But the partial emulation of DDD by HHH is not a proper criteria, so 
yoiuy are just pointing out that you are just lying about what you are 
doing.