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On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 13:44:53 +0000, Bertitaylor wrote:

> On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 3:45:31 +0000, Physfitfreak wrote:
>
>> On 4/16/25 5:22 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>> On 4/16/25 4:14 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/14/25 2:01 PM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>>>> rhertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wien was already a Nobel Prize by 1905. He had a tremendous respect
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> influence from the European physics community (and also abroad).
>>>>>>> Planck
>>>>>>> didn't have this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why should we believe anything you write
>>>>>> when you can't even get simple facts like this right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What difference does it make what happened anyway. I don't understand
>>>>> you guys in this relativity forum.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some physics were developed and that's it. The important thing is the
>>>>> physics not the history of physics. Doesn't matter who did what.
>>>>>
>>>>> And all these human names Priests have packed into it. Concepts as well
>>>>> as units and rules and even some formulas! All with human names on them.
>>>>> Are you people nuts?..
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps, but it is a very human trait.
>>>> Things memorise more easily when there is a name attached to it.
>>>>
>>>> For example, even asteroids get names.
>>>> Asteroid 1001 Gaussia for example may be easier on the brain
>>>> than the provisional designation 1923 OA.
>>>> Asteroid 'Gaussia' will even be understood if the number is forgotten,
>>>>
>>>> Jan
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No it's not that innocent a mess. Priest-minded crappy scientists,
>>> disguised as "scientists" have been forcing it to pack non-related
>>> humanities stuff in it for their own tribal interests. And they've gone
>>> too far. It's become disgusting in fact. Takes the attention of students
>>> away to stuff unrelated to physics.
>>>
>>> Did Newton ever do that? Of course not. As far as I know he never named
>>> names in his physics works. The closest that he came to point to a
>>> "history" of it was his comment about "giants". He was too good a
>>> physicist to name even those giants, cause it would be trash as far as
>>> physics concepts were concerned.
>>>
>>> Physics history is a humanities field. It has absolutely nothing to do
>>> with physics.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Wouldn't it be better if for a paper that's been published, the writers
>> of it would appear as only codes, and not their names or affiliations,
>> codes which themselves would change with each new paper they write. This
>> will secure the danger of bias in reading such papers. There'd only be
>> the material to concentrate on, and nothing else that could give the
>> readers any cues about in whose presence they are when they're reading
>> the work. Physics requires such degree of objectivity.
>
> Any new advance is subjective, Roachie. In time it becomes objective
> when many approve. With mysterious codes instead of names it becomes
> merely robotic. And full.

Dull, not full, above.
Autocorrect can be a pain.



No fun. Yes tribalism is an issue. It will not
> go away.
>>
>> The references section of the paper should likewise avoid giving such
>> cues. Only the titles of the papers, and dates, together with the
>> corresponding codes tied to each one and unique to it, would be given.
>
> People write papers for their careers. Their own careers. One does not
> work for the elevation of mysterious codes.
>>
>> This will fight tribalism.
>
> Nothing beats tribalism. The most fundamental quality of apes,
> tribalism.
>>
>> All that bias that's packed today in the form of who's who will get
>> eliminated, and what's left is physics itself to research and understand
>> and develop.
>
> Careerists do not do any worthwhile research as hobbyists like Newton
> and Arindam. Their speciality is politics, not research. What to write
> where to get published and receive grants.
>
>
>>
>> Under such system, Arindams of the world will subsist, but only at the
>> subsistence level.
>
> Roachie, Arindam has been persona non grata to the physics journals. He
> does not have a single publication in any physics journal.
>
> So Arindam posts his work in Usenet, Facebook and YouTube. The control
> the physicists have is to ignore him and ridicule him. They cannot
> challenge him online or media for they know that they he have no chance
> against Arindam's immensely superior and clear future physics.
>
> All that bullshit keeps coming and are quickly read
>> and tossed away by researchers. I don't think the loss of time and
>> effort involved would be even mentionable. If I read 20 different works
>> of Arindam not knowing they've all been from him, it would still take me
>> really seconds for each to find the bogus there and toss them. I mean
>> the waste of time for 20 of them added together would be less than 10
>> minutes.
>
> Okay you are such a confirmed dickhead, that is well known. Nothing
> special. All anti-Arindam physicists are dickheads with their dicks
> buried in their personal black holes. Snakes!
>>
>> And with continuation of this norm, researchers will get super sharp in
>> detecting bogus not from knowing the author, but from the  presented
>> material itself because they would have no other ways to prevent such
>> material coming to them. They won't have an "Arindam" or "Archimedes
>> Plutonium" name attached to help them toss'em faster. I think the
>> additional bogus detecting skills it creates is/8 worth the little price
>> paid.
>
> Stupid Roachie, Arindam does not publish in journals so your coding
> stuff is irrelevant.
>>
>> And physics will remain a physics-based, not an author-based science.
>
> Tch tch, the future of physics will be the physics of Arindam. Out with
> inertia. Thermodynamics. Relativity nonsenses. Quantum Bunkum.
>>
>> The way it is now, when I open a physics book I get nausiated by it. It
>> feels like a Bible, written by the Fremasonry. Fuck you of course for
>> it. Fuck you cro-magnons.
>
> Who cares for the feelings of roaches, Roachie! Eat beans and fart.
>
> Woof-woof woof woof woof-woof woof
>
> Bertietaylor
>
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