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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: My 66000 and High word facility Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2024 18:49:35 +0000 Organization: Rocksolid Light Message-ID: <38055f09c5d32ab77b9e3f1c7b979fb4@www.novabbs.org> References: <v98asi$rulo$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2121999"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="65wTazMNTleAJDh/pRqmKE7ADni/0wesT78+pyiDW8A"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Posting-User: ac58ceb75ea22753186dae54d967fed894c3dce8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$/Qit93BAdnwqTUhbkK6iiOVp3rh6tbTSGo2U.W7Mcto9mFCpxLBY. Bytes: 2457 Lines: 36 On Sat, 10 Aug 2024 18:17:54 +0000, Brett wrote: > > My 66000 should look into the z/architecture High Word Facility as that > would give you another 65% more registers or so. You have the opcode > space and it is Another nice boost for some customers. The article posted by Andy Glew was luke-warm at best. Now, while IBM has figured out that 16 GPRs is insufficient, there is scant data that 32 are insufficient {witness how few RISCs went with bigger files} Since My 66000 is a 64-bit architecture with a modicum of support for 8-bit, 16-bit, and 32-bit stuff; and since 32-truely GPRs seems to be enough (compiler output), I think I will pass. Due to significant access to constants, My 66000 with only 32-actual registers performs as well as RISC-V does with 32I+32F in most codes, so there does not seem to be an insufficient number of registers. I even have ASM examples where RISC-V runs out of registers where My 66000 does not !! Not wasting register to hold onto big immediates, big displacements, or big addresses goes a long way to thinning out the register count necessities. In My 66000 one can utilize all 32 registers, with 0 reserved for {linking, splicing, GOT access,...} these "effective constants" become actual constants meaning one does not have to consume a register to have access through that constant address value. > IBM supports Linux, so the compiler support should exist. X86 solved the > aliasing issue with finer tracking. Neither of which would worry me. > > Thanks, > Brett