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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: hertz778@gmail.com (rhertz) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Pseudoscience III: Each SR/GR experiment is a FRAUD! Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2024 16:04:42 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <39235ef7b6b2134a55a750c1b886e553@www.novabbs.com> References: <7f48b61d2779066c75b739a1afd4eb80@www.novabbs.com> <vd0t61$3lvnd$1@dont-email.me> <ebe353415ea822a2b9505c8fc635081c@www.novabbs.com> <9fddf2b19888f8325ff11b4568ba31df@www.novabbs.com> <kM_IO.774584$b6j.701697@fx11.ams4> <87ba83c89bd6f1488741edd2ec3b88a9@www.novabbs.com> <vd3m0a$6irg$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3595340"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="hWiuCAeR3KEZYJfTvV11n0qrRi6oqW/zjvEZQQGun9A"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$CcfAgSj65exsbBINuIJzJez.GQvcOWTzBeAmqcexVX74JYIToZd6W X-Rslight-Posting-User: f685b96694175b2ad43ead343ead0a9c0082fe88 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3488 Lines: 58 Paul, I quote this SHAMEFUL part of your post. You are becoming a disgraceful LIAR and DECEIVER, as it correspond to a relativist. *************************************************************** kinematic term: τₖ = (-(2RΩv + v²)/2c²)τ₀ Eastward trip: τ₀ = 65.42 hours |v| = 2πR/τ₀ = 170.16 m/s = 612.58 km/h v = +170.16 m/s τₖ = -245.32 ns If you insert τ₀ = 2πR/|v| in (1), the result is obviously the same. Your giant blunder: Not recognising that this is a very simplified example with "equatorial circumnavigation at constant ground speed and altitude". for estimating the magnitude of expected relativistic effects." (-245 ns is of the same order of magnitude as -184 ns) How could you imagine that this was the equation to calculate the kinetic terms from all the flights? **************************************************************** THE CORRECT FORMULA, FROM THE HAFELE PAPER, IS: kinematic term: (τ - τ₀) = (-(2RΩv + v²)/2c²)τ₀ where τ₀ is the USNO ELAPSED TIME after the eastward round trip. This is a GROSS estimation, which gives τ₀ = 65.42 hours = 235,512,000,000,000 theoretical nanoseconds elapsed at USNO clocks! ************************ Eastward trip: τ₀ = 65.42 hours |v| = 2πR/τ₀ = 170.16 m/s = 612.58 km/h v = +170.16 m/s τₖ = -245.32 ns If you insert τ₀ = 2πR/|v| in (1), the result is obviously the same. ************************ You CAN´T (unless you are a fraudster) to calculate a theoretical USNO elapsed time of 235.51E+12 nsec (out of thin air), and ESTIMATE a difference of 245 nsec between USNO and "flying clocks". This represents a fraction of about 1,000,000,000,000 parts between both clocks, and calculated for trips around the Equator. Of course that, if you are a CROOK used to hack and cook, are used to LIE and DECEIVE, and have a bunch of people that support your SCAM, then you can produce an HOAX like this one. Your emphasis in supporting this entire FARCE shows your true colors. You are not different from these people or others who committed fraud in widely published "experiments", like Gravity Probe A, Pound-Rebka, Cassini and so many others. Shame on you, as you don't have a bit of it.