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From: hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel)
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Subject: Re: How can gravity itself escape a black =?UTF-8?B?aG9sZT8=?=
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2024 01:06:49 +0000
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On Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:30:09 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>
> W dniu 01.11.2024 o 17:24, gharnagel pisze:
> >
> > On Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:42:49 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > >
> > > W dniu 01.11.2024 o 14:14, gharnagel pisze:
> > >
> > > > Consider the case when vr = 0 and vt^2/c^2 = rs/2r.  The mass
> > > > is in orbit around the BH at r = 1.5rs and time is frozen from
> > > > the distant observer's perspective, which is strange: how can
> > > > it orbit if it's frozen ...
> > >
> > > Simply: fantasy worlds
> >
> > Nothing is more fantastic than someone who asserts that time
> > didn't exist before humans invented it :-))
>
> And still I've provided more than 40 examples
> of times that for sure didn't exist before
> humans invented them.

And still that's irrelevant

> > imagined by some idiots
> >
> > SLANDER!  Wozniak is SLANDERING for no valid reason at all!
>
> Nope, poor trash.

And he slanders again in his response.  What a piece of work!

> It is not false.

Those who earn Nobel prizes are NOT idiots.  The jury would
certainly be deliberating on someone who claimed they were idiots,
however.

Wozniak can't attack the issue so he attacks people.  This is
known as

"1. ad hominem — attacking the arguer and not the argument."
-- Carl Sagan

Wozniak is incompetent to deal with the issue.

"Attack me again with your sticks and your stones,
And, yes, you just may end up breaking my bones.
But name-calling earns you the hapless disgrace
Of failing to logically argue your case." -- David Morin

> My alleged booze - is.
> Of course, it's no surprise that
> you're too stupid  to distinguish
> an insult and a slander. Anyway,
> speaking to relativistic scum
> sadly made me partially descending
> to its level.

See?  Wozniak goes for personal attack, every time.  And when
he tries to address the issue, he is left looking really, really
stupid.

> > > can behave very strangely indeed.
> > > But how about a distant observer moving wrt
> > > the one you specified? Is the mass frozen for
> > > him as well,
> >
> > The scenario about which Wozniak has chosen to express his
> > ignorance is a tangential velocity, not a linear one.
>
> And?  Is the mass frozen for such
> observer or not? No answer? Sure.
> Slandering is easy, answerring
> questions is not, right, poor trash?

:-))  There he is, looking really, really stupid again.  And
slandering again, too!  If he doesn't understand the difference
between linear and circular motion, he wouldn't be able to
understand the answer.

“If you’re incompetent, you can’t know you’re incompetent. […]
the skills you need to produce a right answer are exactly the
skills you need to recognize what a right answer is.”
 —David Dunning

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

Wozniak has incorrectly used the DL effect against those who
refuted his stupid assertions without realizing that it
actually applies to himself :-))