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From: will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery)
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Subject: Re: I Met A Girl / Will Dockery
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2025 20:29:43 +0000
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On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 16:50:26 +0000, HarryLime wrote:

> On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 15:55:22 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:
>> HarryLime wrote:
>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>
>>>>>> Here's the original unedited version so the readers can decide for
>>>>>> themselves:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ***
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I Met A Girl
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I met a girl
>>>>>>>>> she came from California.
>>>>>>>>> It was in a dream
>>>>>>>>> we knew each other instantly.
>>>>>>>>> She was a little freckled girl
>>>>>>>>> from out of
>>>>>>>>> my high school past.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And she looked up at me
>>>>>>>>> and talked real spacey.
>>>>>>>>> I've forgotten her name
>>>>>>>>> though she told it to me twice.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We talked
>>>>>>>>> a really detached situation.
>>>>>>>>> She said years ago
>>>>>>>>> I was so shy
>>>>>>>>> she thought I was gay.
>>>>>>>>> At this point I kissed her
>>>>>>>>> and put my finger to her hole.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And she looked up at me
>>>>>>>>> and talked real spacey.
>>>>>>>>> I have forgotten her name
>>>>>>>>> though she told it to me twice.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't know why it was
>>>>>>>>> that I would think of her.
>>>>>>>>> I made a couple of puns
>>>>>>>>> about her name that made me blush.
>>>>>>>>> But her softness in tone
>>>>>>>>> made me feel all right.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All I want to do
>>>>>>>>> is get in contact.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Will Dockery / May 8 1982
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ***
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This poem was written in 1982, during my time in the Atlanta Georgia New
>>>>>> Wave punk rock scene, while also influenced by the earlier Beatnik poets
>>>>>> I was reading at the time, such as Allen Ginsberg, Jack Kerouac and
>>>>>> Charles Bukowski among others.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Both styles employed a sort of crude swagger in the tone and content
>>>>>> which I also used in many of my poems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All apologies to those offended.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suppose that's a start.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, an apologize is supposed to include owning up to one's
>>>>> mistake -- not attempting to justify it as beatnik inspired swagger.
>>>>>
>>>>> You need to recognize that groping a woman you've just met is wrong.
>>>>> Regardless of whether she's a punk rocker, or that you were acting under
>>>>> the influence of beatnik poets.  Groping is wrong because it's a form of
>>>>> sexual assault, and a violation of a woman's body.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> You're misrepresenting the scene again, Pendragon we were just having
>>>> some fun, kissing and "making out" a little, as the young folks used to
>>>> call it.
>>>>
>>>> Nothing as serious as you want to make it out to be.
>>>>
>>>> HTH and HAND.
>>>
>>> Your poem makes it out to be
>>
>> No, that's just your misrepresentation of my poem, Pendragon.
>
> I call

Mainly, you continue to lie and misrepresent, Harry.

> Answer my question

Okay, see below for my answer.

> If you ran into some guy you'd barely known in high school, and after
> exchanging a few words, he planted a kiss on you and stuck his finger up
> your butthole, would you consider that to have been "making out"?
>
> --

Since that would be a completely different situation from the one in my
poem there would have been a completely different outcome.