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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: HHH maps its input to the behavior specified by it --- never reaches its halt state ---natural number mapping Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2024 15:42:46 -0400 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <3a8550867c0c04c565f5c09168dced0cd73672ba@i2pn2.org> References: <v8jh7m$30k55$1@dont-email.me> <v8oj1n$6kik$3@dont-email.me> <v8pvke$ih0a$1@dont-email.me> <4-qdnbdw1JzlRS37nZ2dnZfqlJydnZ2d@giganews.com> <v8v7p3$29r2r$1@dont-email.me> <v8vub1$32fso$14@dont-email.me> <1e1fa9bc4bbc00aa65c1a7974bd1bda87687c92b@i2pn2.org> <v90di8$38oni$1@dont-email.me> <47a76378d634bf0db4017f879d0160793b57125e@i2pn2.org> <v9161o$3gaju$1@dont-email.me> <b84374e766c199e1ba38ef1dc3bc8f6ab2c39dfc@i2pn2.org> <v91i97$3n4m0$1@dont-email.me> <v91unh$3rbor$1@dont-email.me> <v92gja$p1$3@dont-email.me> <v94m0l$ljf4$1@dont-email.me> <v95ae9$p5rb$1@dont-email.me> <v978dv$h1ib$1@dont-email.me> <v97j0q$ilah$2@dont-email.me> <ccc5dafb53acf66239baac0183a6291687794963@i2pn2.org> <v97l3j$kof0$2@dont-email.me> <v97pgq$l4f4$2@dont-email.me> <v97qf0$lise$2@dont-email.me> <v97rq3$l4f4$4@dont-email.me> <v97t7g$m8l6$1@dont-email.me> <v98bu1$s12e$1@dont-email.me> <v98c7u$s5bj$1@dont-email.me> <v98d4g$s12e$3@dont-email.me> <v98dmd$sddi$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2024 19:42:46 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2124526"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 In-Reply-To: <v98dmd$sddi$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3502 Lines: 40 On 8/10/24 3:05 PM, olcott wrote: > On 8/10/2024 1:56 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >> Op 10.aug.2024 om 20:41 schreef olcott: >>> On 8/10/2024 1:35 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>> >>>> No evidence for these claims. We know that a simulation of a halting >>>> program is correct only when it reaches the halt state, >>> >>> void Infinite_Recursion() >>> { >>> Infinite_Recursion(); >>> } >>> >>> void Infinite_Loop() >>> { >>> HERE: goto HERE; >>> } >>> >>> You seem to be an ignoramus. Ordinary ignorance can be corrected. >> >> Completely irrelevant. There is no infinite loop in HHH because HHH >> aborts after N recursions, not after an Infinite_Recursion. > > Thus you already knew that your statement was false before you > said it. Infinite_Loop() need not be emulated to non-existent > completion before HHH recognizes its infinite behavior pattern. > > Why say things that you know are false? > Of course it doesn't, because it can actually prove that such an emulation will go on forever, as we can observe. It can't do that for DDD, and in fact, if we give that DDD paired to the HHH that thinks DDD is non-halting and aborts and returns to a true complete emulator (at a diffferent address than HHH is at, something not used) then we see that DDD will halt, and thus HHH is wrong. This has been proving, and you ignoring that proof just shows that you are toostupid to see your errors, and too stupid to see that you are too stupid to see the errors, which makes you the worse kind of stupid.