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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Whoops! The Atlantic Makes Trump Look EPIC In Cover Intended as a Smear Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2024 08:29:39 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 74 Message-ID: <3aenhjh9dl74po5mh9o4231m2eo0jnlc17@4ax.com> References: <20240913a@crcomp.net> <d2fcdce9a5ab4287e89d38f4e7f48ba5@www.novabbs.com> <vf6u8i$15atn$10@dont-email.me> <vf8lsu$1ikrj$2@dont-email.me> <vfaqam$d8n$1@panix2.panix.com> <vfb1on$22pp9$1@dont-email.me> <vfbh62$25j82$2@dont-email.me> <vfc3ak$2aifa$2@dont-email.me> <vfeira$2qqt8$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2024 17:29:43 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ef83a7361a9e0e300c1473b88b83ce8c"; logging-data="3406930"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+JBqCqaXBXfTEs7O/BVf/PHk31CFqzQ1Y=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:67iDV23LyggRhoX9jhghab0umY0= Bytes: 3900 On Thu, 24 Oct 2024 17:48:10 -0500, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote: >On 10/23/2024 7:11 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >> On 10/23/24 12:01, Lynn McGuire wrote: >>> On 10/23/2024 9:38 AM, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >>>> On 10/23/24 05:31, Scott Dorsey wrote: >>>>> Cryptoengineer=A0 <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Batteries are not a power source - they are a power store. >>>>> >>>>> This is true for storage batteries, not for primary batteries like=20 >>>>> alkaline >>>>> cells.=A0 Some languages make a specific distinction between=20 >>>>> "l'accumulateur" >>>>> and "la cellule" but English does not unfortunately. >>>>> --scott >>>>> >>>> >>>> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Look up Flow Batteries.=A0 They are not in automotive= use yet but >>>> would keep gas stations open to supply the fluid with which they >>>> operate. >>>> >>>> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0You would have a future that resembles the immediate = past. >>>> >>>> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0bliss >>> >>> Please give me a URL.=A0 Don't make me think. >>> >>> Lynn >>=20 >> =A0=A0=A0=A0I am sorry for the attempt, considering your primitive >> political views as expressed here on occasion I should not tried >> to make you thini or type. >>=20 >> =A0=A0=A0=A0It ain't thinking Lynn but simply typing. >> <https://www.solarreviews.com/blog/what-are-flow-batteries> >>=20 >> =A0=A0=A0=A0bliss > >Thank you for the URL. I have never heard of these. > >Huh, there is no lithium in the batteries. I am not a big fan of liquid= =20 >lithium batteries due to their narrow range of operating temperature, 59= =20 >F to 85 F. Also due to their tendency to have runaway exothermic=20 >reactions above 140 F. > >"Vanadium emerging as electrolyte of choice for flow batteries" > >"There are different types of flow batteries out there, from polysulfide= =20 >redox, hybrid, to organic, as well as a long list of electrochemical=20 >reaction couplings (including zinc-bromine and iron-chromium), though=20 >none have reached the performance, efficiency, or cost levels needed for= =20 >wide scale adoption - yet." > >"Most of the commercially-available flow batteries use a vanadium liquid= =20 >electrolyte, a material found primarily in Russia." > >We are not friends with Russia at the moment. I had to tell all of my=20 >customers in Russia goodbye a couple of years ago. That has cost me and= =20 >my primary business quite a bit of money. Perhaps they will return when thing clear up. If they ever do. --=20 "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino, Who evil spoke of everyone but God, Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"