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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes <noreply@example.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: V5 --- Professor Sipser Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:24:51 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <3bd0f0cf0743738e3b50264274ad6ef677b905f1@i2pn2.org> References: <va104l$376ed$4@dont-email.me> <cd375f68f97a737988bab8c1332b7802509ff6ea@i2pn2.org> <va13po$376ed$7@dont-email.me> <d42e5d30ea5f1c067283cb04d8a7293e2117188e@i2pn2.org> <va24hl$3cvgv$1@dont-email.me> <431deaa157cdae1cae73a1b24268a61cf8ec2c1c@i2pn2.org> <va38qh$3ia79$1@dont-email.me> <7a1c569a699e79bfa146affbbae3eac7b91cd263@i2pn2.org> <va3f7o$3ipp3$1@dont-email.me> <729cc551062c13875686d266a5453a488058e81c@i2pn2.org> <va3kac$3nd5c$1@dont-email.me> <148bf4dd91f32379a6d81a621fb7ec3fc1e00db0@i2pn2.org> <va3lai$3nd5c$2@dont-email.me> <va46sd$3pr24$1@dont-email.me> <va4mle$3s0hu$1@dont-email.me> <va5bo3$3v0rh$2@dont-email.me> <va5d1u$3vepf$2@dont-email.me> <va6ses$c9tl$2@dont-email.me> <va7d4u$ebdg$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:24:51 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3438386"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 2827 Lines: 29 Am Thu, 22 Aug 2024 08:06:37 -0500 schrieb olcott: > On 8/22/2024 3:21 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >> Op 21.Aug.2024 OM 20:52 olcott: >>> >>> You keep missing the idea that HHH does a partial simulation of DDD to >>> predict what would happen if this HHH never aborted its simulation of >>> DDD. >> You keep missing the idea that HHH must predict the behaviour of its >> input (the HHH that does a partial simulation), not the behaviour of a >> different hypothetical non-input (the HHH that never aborted). > > The would be stupid. If that was the case then HHH could ignore its > input and accept every input as halting including this one: > void Infinite_Loop() > { > HERE: goto HERE; > } But that program doesn’t call its own (aborting) simulator HHH. DDD changes with its simulator, because it calls it. >> There is a reason why HHH has an input. If it were correct to predict >> the behaviour of a hypothetical non-input, then HHH would not need an >> input. > That is stupid Yes, it would. >> Are you still cheating with the Root variable to change the behaviour >> of HHH from an input to a non-input? -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.