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From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org>
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Subject: Re: What the Constitution, Supreme Court say about 'due process' for Trump deportees:
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2025 17:38:57 -0400
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On Thu, 05 Jun 2025 10:15:19 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

>On Thu, 5 Jun 2025 09:44:04 -0400, Frank Krygowski
><frkrygow@gXXmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 6/5/2025 3:59 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>> On Thu, 5 Jun 2025 00:15:09 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>> <frkrygow@gXXmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 6/4/2025 7:43 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>>> kilmar-abrego-garciaOn Wed, 4 Jun 2025 13:27:52 +0200, Rolf Mantel <news@hartig-mantel.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 04.06.2025 um 11:52 schrieb Catrike Ryder:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 11:23:34 +0200, Rolf Mantel <news@hartig-mantel.de>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 04.06.2025 um 10:31 schrieb Catrike Ryder:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 01:10:55 -0000 (UTC), Beej Jorgensen <beej@beej.us>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In article <d3vu3k5sec04fbqhmm6sjdktd2t9t5v81r@4ax.com>,
>>>>>>>>>> Catrike Ryder  <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm neither in the USA illegally, nor have I committed any crimes, so
>>>>>>>>>>> you needn't worry.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not worried that you're in the US illegally or have committed any
>>>>>>>>>> crimes. I'm worried that the government will *say* you're in the country
>>>>>>>>>> illegally and then ship you off.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is no law that says the government cannot say you are in the
>>>>>>>>>> country illegally. The only thing protecting you is the fact that you
>>>>>>>>>> get a hearing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You clearly trust the government far more than I do to be willing to
>>>>>>>>>> waive this right.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> US citizens should indeed get a hearing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you mean "people who claim to be US citizens" should get a hearing to
>>>>>>>> verify whether they are indeed US citizens?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you claim to be a US citizen, the government claim you're not.
>>>>>> Should you get a hearing or should the government deport you without a
>>>>>> hearing?
>>>>>
>>>>> Good grief...   I'm not going to respond to your hypothetical question
>>>>> about something that's not going to happen.
>>>>
>>>> ... if you're white enough!
>>> 
>>> That's from the guy who actually bragged about riding through a
>>> neighborhood of people of other races.
>>> 
>>> Today I'm planning a solo ride through the inner city, partly to visit
>>> a new library on the far side of town. I'll be riding on <gasp!>
>>> ordinary streets. Many of those streets will have <oh my!> people of
>>> other races living there.
>>> --Frank Krygowski
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/Zu_BtGgv8Fs/m/vkwxt_GNBQAJ?hl=en&hl=en
>>
>>Everybody else here understood the sarcasm, as clearly indicated by the 
>>"<gasp!>" and "<oh my!>".
>>
>>But I suppose if a person is too timid to interact with others in normal 
>>life, obvious conversational clues might be confusing.
>>
>>:-)  And how interesting that our timid tricyclist is saving my posts 
>>for reference! Talk about obsessions!
>
>What's sarcastic about riding where there are people of other races?
> 

Krygowski is not going to answer that, but it's Ok, I know what that
brag was all about. Krygowski thinks he's special because he's not
afraid to ride through neighborhoods with people of different races,
but the fact is that most of the rest of the people nowdays, me
included, have lived among, work with, with, hang out with and
otherwise interact with people of other races. As for me, include
date, live with, sail with, voted for, motorcycle with, scuba dive
with, ride horseback with, go wilderness camping with, and more....

Sure there are racist people around, but they're getting very rare,
and are generally scorned by the rest of us.

--
C'est bon
Soloman