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On 2025-06-18 12:43, Richmond wrote:
> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:
> 
>> On 2025-06-15 01:15, Richmond wrote:
>>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 2025-06-14 21:50, Marion wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 19:57:41 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote :
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sorry to say that about everybody in Spain uses WhatsApp, even
>>>>>> businesses. Like the Bank. It is what it is.  >> Please ignore
>>>>>> Joerg. He feels compelled to ROTFWL on every thread.  >> He has
>>>>>> nothing to add. He's a worthless despicable human being.  >>
>>>>>> Now... as for your point - I agree with you since I agree with >>
>>>>>> anyone who >> makes a sensible logical statement.  >> Even I use
>>>>>> WhatsApp. And I care about privacy.  >> So I'm happy you (and
>>>>>> Richmond) brought this up.  >> I don't understand the
>>>>>> implications, but I can tell others that I >> use >> WhatsApp for
>>>>>> two sensible reasons, one of which is that it's what all my >>
>>>>>> relatives use on their mobile phones in Germany. So it's what
>>>>>> works since >> calling them would cost me an arm and a leg with
>>>>>> international prices.  >> The other reason is the parents of both
>>>>>> my great grandchildren use >> Apple >> devices, so everything is
>>>>>> blurry without using something like WhatsApp.  >> Sure, another
>>>>>> messenger would work, but so does WhatsApp.  >> Caveat in the sig.
>>>>
>>>> That WhatsApp has been affected by this security leak is still
>>>> unclear. The author of the article I posted doesn't know. Facebook
>>>> and Instagram yes, certainly. But WhatsApp promises encrypted
>>>> communications are kept private, end to end encryption. Listening to
>>>> them would be a major breach of trust (except with a court
>>>> order). This is not the same with Facebook, which is intended to
>>>> publish things.  >> The point is, whatsapp is closed source, it
>>>> could be doing other >> things >> beside sending your messages. It
>>>> could be snooping on other things and >> sending that data
>>>> elsewhere. Meta has now demonstrated it doesn't worry >> too much
>>>> about the law. Do you want that software on your phone? or are >>
>>>> you going to wait for the next thing to be discovered?
>>
>> I really do not have a choice in this.
>>
>> I know that it doesn't read our messages, and that is good enough. It
>> will have to do.
> 
> I am going to complain to the Information Commissioner's Office. But it
> is a long process. I don't have any of the apps installed, but I did
> once have a phone with facebook pre-installed, and this illegal activity
> has been going on since 2017 according to the reports.

Well, I don't have Facebook nor Instagram installed. One of my phones 
had it preinstalled, but I removed or blocked it at the time.

In the case of WhatsApp, I really don't have a choice, and there is yet 
no data on whether it is affected by this "issue".



-- 
Cheers, Carlos.