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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Has anyone heard from BTR1701 today? Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2025 21:38:31 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 53 Message-ID: <3o11oj5v2daa14inephkssm48odndh4fc6@4ax.com> References: <vlnbiq$2bq0q$5@dont-email.me> <1736402341-1263@newsgrouper.org.uk> <lj6vnjdp3ussiolbthn58hipeemj1tg1pp@4ax.com> <vloquk$2bq0q$9@dont-email.me> <0bvvnjdscepg4oegpqcukm73sejvtg99p2@4ax.com> <vlp2g2$2bq0q$10@dont-email.me> <vlp40n$2252f$1@solani.org> <pu50ojla2af5rhitqg8db2labidg34qbio@4ax.com> <vlp688$69n$1@reader2.panix.com> <rm80oj1c9filnvhokppl5afldcba1el0op@4ax.com> <vlp8ek$atd$1@reader2.panix.com> <vlps6u$2e5q0$1@solani.org> <8ru0ojla2af5rhitqg8db2labidg34qba2@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 03:38:33 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="203786b19baf634cc429eeebdf24d58b"; logging-data="3839159"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/84OC9pqFkUUH2P2128ALWb2fJXHHN8lU=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:gvdYXAx/+/v1pUSfpEP10KsCUqY= Bytes: 3800 On Thu, 09 Jan 2025 21:03:38 -0500, EGK <memyself@null.net> wrote: >On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 17:13:03 -0800, suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote: > >>On 1/9/2025 11:35 AM, danny burstein wrote: >>> In <rm80oj1c9filnvhokppl5afldcba1el0op@4ax.com> EGK <memyself@null.net> writes: >>> >>>> On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 18:58:16 -0000 (UTC), danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> >>>> wrote: >>> >>>>> In <pu50ojla2af5rhitqg8db2labidg34qbio@4ax.com> EGK <memyself@null.net> writes: >>>>> >>>>> [snip] >>>>> >>>>>> Newsom claimed there was plenty of water but reports are water mains to >>>>>> fight the fires ran dry. >>>>> >>>>> If you try really, really, hard, maybe you could figure out how >>>>> opening 250 hydrants near the reserviour might cause some problems >>>>> for the ones farther downstream. >>> >>>> So again, they were totally unprepared for this. >>> >>> damn, you're dumb >>> >>> >>Yeah, who can prepare for 80 mph wind in SoCalm in conjunction with >>fire. Never happened before. > > There was no brush management to cut and dispose of brush that fed the >fire. They had a lack of infrastructure so water could be pumped under >pressure to higher elevations. They cut the fire department budget by 18 >million dollars. They had evacuation plans that looks like something out of >the keystone cops. Given the 800 something million dollar budget I'm not sure the 18 million dollars would have made a difference. The water issue is one that they could have dealt with BUT it would have meant spending millions of dollars to have the pumping infrastructure to handle the massive demand that might never have arrived. They had plenty of pumping availability for normal usage but multiple fires at one time all needing water to fight the fires was too much for them. I'm not sure the voters would have been happy spending the millions of dollars needed to be ready for a day like this. >You can't prevent but you sure as hell can do a better job to prepare. >Instead politicians will just wave their hands and blame "climate change". Well it's easier to do that than to fight the voters to spend the money where it is needed on the off chance they get multiple fires going at once. I'm not saying they shouldn't have spent the money. Just that you know the voters would have fought them on it.