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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!border-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 22:57:13 +0000 From: Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 18:57:11 -0400 Message-ID: <3og65k5r9mfu0p256q6tqq3i6qgsu8klle@4ax.com> References: <6rs8ilxccg.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <1re47ks.s13naaq38sy8N%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <0kdbilx65a.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <tj265k9q876mokthv4rvi7eo0058vbmu49@4ax.com> <maqbilxvbf.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 39 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-IMoD/oCmehOaAgiMvWcBjw6p6N/wcHa6M4Hs0i9ZSk1vRr3zQf8N9jRwC0QYekVeESoQFotn+lBTmR8!9qljfcc7bzvhX+VuoB/8TsXTK/AXtgEuZ0iPK8PDhhOzlCDHrMSrECkB5QmEhW2WYw== X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 00:14:14 +0200, "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >On 2025-06-18 22:19, Joe Gwinn wrote: >> On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 20:37:20 +0200, "Carlos E.R." >> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> >>> On 2025-06-18 09:39, Liz Tuddenham wrote: >>>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>> [...] >>>>> ...the minister for >>>>> ecological transition, Sara Aagesen >>>> [...] >>>>> the >>>>> "system did not have enough dynamic voltage capacity". >>>> [...] >>>>> did not absorb all the voltage >>>>> they were supposed to when tension was high," she said, >>>> >>>> The usual nonsense we have come to expect from 'factual' reports. >>>> Ignorant minister? Ignorant reporter? ...or both. >>> >>> The report was written by a committee of experts. Fifty, I think. >> >> How many are experienced power engineers who have the practical >> ability to cut to the core and live to tell the tale? > >As many as necessary. You probably can find their names if you are >interested and seek it out. Not knowing Spanish or Spanish politics and its players, it would be futile. I'll not even try. And the part about "and live to tell the tale" is essential - such reviewers must have sufficient political stature and independence to be politician-proof. Joe