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From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org>
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Subject: Re: Helmet efficacy test
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2025 05:17:55 -0400
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On 25 Mar 2025 08:02:38 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:

>Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> On 3/24/2025 6:02 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
>>> 
>>> I like to wear helmet for extra protection against a fall. I do agree 
>>> that for me even running with a helmet would be good since I have no 
>>> balance to run anymore. However, Frank is I think in the minority about 
>>> helmets...
>> 
>> Nope, that's not true. In the current echo chamber of avid sport 
>> cyclists I am a minority. But very I'm comfortable with not following 
>> most of the group's trends. I don't use clipless pedals, I don't use 
>> brifters or disk brakes, I don't ride in jerseys that advertise my 
>> favorite products or my favorite racing team, I don't use aerodynamic 
>> sunglasses, etc.
>> 
>> But in the total population of world cyclists, it's the helmet wearers 
>> who are a definite minority.
>> 
>>> ... and while he may have data to support it sometimes we humans 
>>> overlook data. I rely sometimes only on intuition and what I think might 
>>> be good. 
>> 
>> That's a common human trait. It leads to lots of bad decisions, but it's 
>> common. It's usually wiser to pay attention to good data, when it's 
>> available.
>> 
>>> I really don't understand the length's Frank goes to dis 
>>> helmets but maybe I am simply taking it more than it is. 
>> 
>> If you check, you'll see I never initiate helmet debates. But when 
>> someone else - um, like you, Mark! - starts stating or implying that 
>> helmets have great benefit, and/or states or implies that bicycling is a 
>> serious risk for brain injury, I do point out that those notions are false.
>> 
>> Bicycling has never been a major source of serious traumatic brain 
>> injury (TBI). On a nationwide basis, bicycling's contribution to TBI 
>> counts is low enough to be off most "causes" charts. Bicycling causes 
>> fewer then 1% of U.S. TBI deaths, far fewer than pedestrian travel, and 
>> far fewer on a "per mile" basis. And historic data over the years shows 
>> quite clearly that bicycle helmets are not preventing either fatalities 
>> or concussions.
>> 
>> Data on request - but it's been posted or linked countless times.
>> 
>> 
>Helmets for cycle safety are distraction to use one of UK bike
>personalities/transport experts aka Chris Boardman.
>
>With cycling the danger and risk is almost entirely introduced by
>motorists, which should be the focus.
>
>Helmet “debates” as ever seem to go nowhere as folks have such intrenched
>positions.
>
>Roger Merriman

I can't understand why anyone argues about wearing helmets other than
about making it mandatory. Whether on not a person wears a helmet has
no effect on anyone else. As for laws about adults wearing them, they
are gradually falling by the wayside.

--
C'est bon
Soloman