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From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org>
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Subject: Re: Ove Interest?
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 13:35:28 -0500
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On 19 Feb 2025 18:11:43 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:

>Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>> On 19 Feb 2025 17:37:28 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>> On 2/19/2025 3:05 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 21:51:48 -0500, Frank Krygowski
>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2/18/2025 12:00 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> <snicker> dumbass thinks ignoring the result of the correlation means he
>>>>>>> can deny a correlation.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dumbass need to be re-educated on the meaning of "correlation"
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This is from a dumbass who was presented with two government reports
>>>>>>> detailing the specification, testing, acceptance, and subsequent
>>>>>>> acquisition of 80,000 AR-15s by the US military and concludes 'the AR-15
>>>>>>> is a weapon the US military never wanted and never used'.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Uneducable.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> indeed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> He trots out his favorite platitude every time he's presented with
>>>>>> evidence that he doesn't like.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I suspect the only "causation" he'll accept is a correlation that was
>>>>>> fed to him from some whacko right wing talk show.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm generally resisting the urge to respond to him. I suspect that's
>>>>>> giving his life even less meaning, but I'm not sympathetic.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Failure to respond indicates that he has no answer, although there's
>>>>> the remote possibility that he understand that I'm right, he's wrong
>>>>> and simply doesn't have balls to admit it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Affirming the consequent is a formal fallacy that is committed when it
>>>>> is stated that because the consequent is true, therefore the
>>>>> antecedent is true as Krygowski did in the following statement:
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Providing proper fertilization to a growing plant correlates with
>>>>> faster growth. That correlation correctly implies causation."
>>>>> --Krygowski
>>>>> 
>>>>> Affirming the consequent is claiming that if P implies Q, therefore Q
>>>>> implies P.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Affirming the consequent is claiming that if fertilization makes a
>>>>> plant grow faster, therefore plants grow faster when fertilized.
>>>>> That is clearly false.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Krygowski and Junior might have learned that if they were better
>>>>> educated
>>>>> 
>>>>> But then again, understanding the intricacies of logic requires a
>>>>> level of intellect that neither of them possess.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> C'est bon
>>>>> Soloman
>>>> 
>>>> Failure to respond may just as well be an eyeroll to 
>>>> something considered trivial to one reader or another.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Indeed failure to respond certainly in my case can mean I?ve given up not
>>> worth the Electrons and frankly it?s not going anywhere.
>>> 
>>> Very unlikely to be ooh gotcha he?s won that argument! Or he?s so right!
>>> 
>>> Clearly occasionally do learn something, which is interesting, or at least
>>> hopefully so!
>>> 
>>> Roger Merriman
>> 
>> I understand your and Mr Muzi's lack of interest, but when someone
>> directs an attack at me and then runs away from the rebuttal, it's the
>> actions of a coward...  what else can it be?
>> 
>> At any rate, it needs to be pointed out.
>> 
>> --
>> C'est bon
>> Soloman
>> 
>
>Frankly that’s absolutely the time to walk away and go for a bike ride/cafe
>etc put down the iPad or at least the newsreader.
>
>Continuing an argument which has dissolved into just name calling quite
>frankly I see no reason to continue that!
>
>Roger Merriman

The rebuttal was anything but name calling. Krygowski is the name
caller. That's his standar behavior. You note that I seldom respond to
Junior Carrington's (Zen) name calling. 

--
C'est bon
Soloman