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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 00:19:59 +0000 Subject: Re: Diversity - good or bad ? Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc References: <c686fb74-4fac-0809-7005-417c76ee0e3b@example.net> <nbReP.633803$oR74.271654@fx16.iad> <2e17ec15-582f-5a71-84e5-d4d490274270@example.net> <vlj20k$25740$9@dont-email.me> <7454fa51-3534-2584-2197-90613efb2091@example.net> <XPSdnbpbLvJvxeL6nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vloss6$3e1r9$5@dont-email.me> <vlp4pc$3fpg0$7@dont-email.me> <vlpc44$3h48e$4@dont-email.me> <vlqi4a$3sp5m$2@dont-email.me> <vlr2rm$3vgr7$7@dont-email.me> <slrnvo33ju.3npco.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> <9uo3ojpd83jm9ngmlhera3nvi00pl9ajeb@4ax.com> <oyWdnaZv_tC4mx_6nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@earthlink.com> <luejbaFhoeeU1@mid.individual.net> <nsacnSBef6vh5B_6nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <lug0caFotnoU1@mid.individual.net> From: "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> Organization: wokiesux Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 19:19:56 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <lug0caFotnoU1@mid.individual.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <3w-dnT3j2Mwylx76nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@earthlink.com> Lines: 36 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 99.101.150.97 X-Trace: sv3-pYAumgYdsZpn48FlZuYoapUXKYbNw4R5h8dFRnWnIWP4nBGDJqiBKwh6P3UGyPz8eW1p+OUn6zq4Uod!bQwlsNLwijavmrNUf5+zYUpZF8Loj0d2JRz7NzhPQMpcDoFgjkQL3g5YN66AzH3SSfv2Y9jZpacX!K8vk40NKAfdmMpFHE6ah X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3454 On 1/11/25 2:50 PM, rbowman wrote: > On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 09:00:04 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: > >> So, for now, Manjaro and some Fedora. No one has yet made a clean >> Just Works port of Fedora for the Pi-5 alas ... something's WEIRD >> about that unit. They should drop it and make a "Pi4-Ultra" instead >> with a peppier version of that chip. > > There's a new Pi 5 version with 16GB of RAM. It's not clear what the use > case is. Windows on ARM? There's clearly something very convoluted about the way the CPU and maybe some peripherial chips start up on the Pi5. You could run many Linux distros on Pi's up thru the Pi4. Then ... the factory Deb deriv is pretty much IT unless you wanna suffer a lot. If you've ever watched a Pi update, note ALL the damned messages about special fix-ups and kernel hacks - I mean there's LOTS of them. The BCM2712 do NOT boot smooth like earlier versions. I'll still say the Pi3s were the "most generally useful". As for the 16gb ... well, if it's not TOO much more expensive, may as well have it. However 4gb has always been more than enough for anything I've wanted to do with a Pi. Even the ancient 250mb ones worked OK with Linux - though I never tried OpenSUSE/KDE on a Pi-1. I did turn one into a muzak system though - 4 hour loops of 'mall/elevator music' from the 70s that would switch once a month. Ran for like a dozen years ... probably still is, unless somebody finally found where I hid it and smashed the thing with a hammer :-)