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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes <noreply@example.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH is correctly rejected as non-halting. Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2024 13:46:21 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <4128db190e2b141173f57dca0d7e303eae9e6164@i2pn2.org> References: <v6m7si$1uq86$2@dont-email.me> <v6mhc7$20hbo$2@dont-email.me> <v6mhr3$20kkr$2@dont-email.me> <v6nts5$2be3m$1@dont-email.me> <v6op4h$2fuva$4@dont-email.me> <ea8aa365d662f11cf1ae48d59cf9b7dd95d8edc8@i2pn2.org> <v6oscm$2fuva$12@dont-email.me> <f971e4043ec8a046697fad1f226221516ba7c13e@i2pn2.org> <v6pgt9$2kc07$1@dont-email.me> <ce0a250902cd90698367e11a5900e68f6163eec3@i2pn2.org> <v6r7tj$30qtt$4@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2024 13:46:21 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3030228"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3066 Lines: 39 Am Fri, 12 Jul 2024 07:34:59 -0500 schrieb olcott: > On 7/12/2024 3:08 AM, joes wrote: >> Am Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:56:09 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>> On 7/11/2024 3:19 PM, joes wrote: >>>> Am Thu, 11 Jul 2024 10:05:58 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>>> On 7/11/2024 9:25 AM, joes wrote: >>>>>> Am Thu, 11 Jul 2024 09:10:24 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>> On 7/11/2024 1:25 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2024-07-10 17:53:38 +0000, olcott said: >>>>>>>>> On 7/10/2024 12:45 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Op 10.jul.2024 om 17:03 schreef olcott: >> >>>>>>> When DDD is correctly emulated by HHH according to the semantics >>>>>>> of the x86 programming language HHH must abort its emulation of >>>>>>> DDD or both HHH and DDD never halt. >>>>>> If the recursive call to HHH from DDD halts, the outer HHH doesn't >>>>>> need to abort. >>>> Do you mean that HHH doesn't halt? >>>>>> DDD depends totally on HHH; it halts exactly when HHH does. >>>>>> Which it does, because it aborts. >>>> What does HHH do after it aborts? >>>>> DDD correctly simulated by HHH has provably different behavior than >>>>> DDD correctly simulated by HHH1. >>>> Which means that HHH is not doing the simulation correctly. >>> When HHH simulates DDD according to the semantics of the x86 language >>> then HHH is simulating correctly. When people disagree with the >>> semantics of the x86 language THEY ARE WRONG !!! >> Aborting is not a correct simulation. >> Please answer the other questions above. > Aborting is what a simulating termination analyzer must do for any input > that cannot possibly otherwise stop running. Yes, which makes it not a simulator. Why does DDD not halt? -- Am Fri, 28 Jun 2024 16:52:17 -0500 schrieb olcott: Objectively I am a genius.