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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Flibble=E2=80=99s_Leap=3A_Why_Behavioral_Divergence?= =?UTF-8?Q?_Implies_a_Type_Distinction_in_the_Halting_Problem?= Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 07:47:01 -0400 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <41dae2a5a7264cb19777d8ab7cae6d15b5d73f07@i2pn2.org> References: <vv1UP.77894$JJT6.54808@fx16.ams4> <vvqd4u$g8a1$1@dont-email.me> <7N2UP.527443$wBt6.464256@fx15.ams4> <vvqfgq$gmmk$1@dont-email.me> <os3UP.670056$BFJ.223954@fx13.ams4> <vvqgpt$gmmk$4@dont-email.me> <aG3UP.366972$wBVe.321504@fx06.ams4> <39947848bf73be52ee6fbbeb6d0d929009dfec8e@i2pn2.org> <fR8UP.92502$o31.50010@fx04.ams4> <fb3915123ad5c4703b92df902c37267fce2c4812@i2pn2.org> <vvrhk6$nejb$2@dont-email.me> <vvrhtj$nnmf$1@dont-email.me> <vvrj7l$nt1l$1@dont-email.me> <vvrl0v$o2ab$5@dont-email.me> <vvrm34$nejb$4@dont-email.me> <vvrmh3$sas2$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 11:51:54 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="23432"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <vvrmh3$sas2$1@dont-email.me> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Content-Language: en-US On 5/11/25 10:30 PM, olcott wrote: > On 5/11/2025 9:23 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote: >> On 12/05/2025 03:05, olcott wrote: >>> On 5/11/2025 8:34 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote: >>>> On 12/05/2025 02:12, olcott wrote: >>>> >>>> <snip> >>>> >>>>> No one here is using any actual reasoning >>>>> in their rebuttals of my work. >>>> >>>> I have already shown several places where your 'work' violates the >>>> rules of its implementation's language standard, >>> >>> My compiler disagrees so I can't fix that. >> >> C compilers are obliged to diagnose syntax errors. If they don't, >> they're not-quite-C compilers. You need to decide whether you're >> writing in C or whether you're not. >> > > > _DDD() > [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping > [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping > [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD > [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) > [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04 > [00002182] 5d pop ebp > [00002183] c3 ret > Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] > > When testing the proof-of-concept not one line > of my code is relevant. The only thing that needs > be determined is the behavior of DDD under some > HHH that emulates DDD according to the rules of > the x86 language. But then HHH must do that, and you HHH that answers doesn't. > > The ONLY reason that you or anyone else brings up > these other things is that you (and they) know that > I am correct and yet want to dishonestly disagree anyway. > No, you are proving yourself just a stupid liar, Since the HHH that answers doesn't do a correct eulation of the input, having it assume it does is just a LIE. Remember, "Correct Emulation" includes not stopping until reachine the end. Yes, as a decider it "must" stop to be one, but that makes it not be the correct emulator you assume, so you logic is just the belief in Fairy Tales, tales about a Truth Fairy that can make impossible statement be true. That is your world of LIES. > This might possibly send you all to actual Hell > if such a place exists. > No, since we are talking truth. You insistance on holding to lies will send you there. And not beliveing in it won't keep you out of it.