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From: Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss>
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Subject: Re: Atheism is a belief
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2022 02:13:50 +0200
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On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 07:04:50 +1000, Michael McLean
<michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote:

>On 16/08/2022 2:55 am, Malte Runz wrote:
>> On Mon, 15 Aug 2022 18:43:01 +1000, Michael McLean
>> 
>> (snip)
>>>
>>> Of course, atheism is a belief.
>> 
>> I'm an atheist. Tell me what I believe.
>
>Okay.  You believe you are an atheist.

[sigh]

A tautology. Is that the smart thing to say around your local water
cooler? Do you think it sounds smart? 
>
>
>>> I have never met more confused and ignorant juvenile people than atheists.
>> 
>> Have you ever met Young Earth Creationists? Flat Earthers? MAGA
>> cultists?
>
>I haven't met a lot of people, including canoeist enthusiasts from the 
>Alaskan wilderness.

I bet the canoeist isn't half as gullible as the above mentioned.
>
>Everyone has a belief. None (including your little list above) so 
>completely deluded and ignorant as those who believe that everything 
>just created itself.

Good thing I don't believe that. 

>
>
>>> They imagine anything, and I mean anything, to support their invalid and
>>> completely hollow claims.
>>
>> What claims do I make?
>
>You claim everything created itself.

Bullshit.

>
>If you choose to lie and say you don't, ...

Oh, you're one of those. It is obvious that nothing I say or do will
make your change your beliefs about me and other atheists. 

What else have you got?

> ... then all you do is prove your 
>ignorance.  Why?  Everything you say, and everything you claim, all of 
>it, comes down to the same olde default..."Everything created itself."

You're quite the simpleton, aren't you. Young Earth Creationist by any
chance?

>
>The impossible, as nothing, no thing can create itself.  Thus, eternal 
>God or nothing would be here.

And that is supposed to be your ace in the hole? The number one
argument that 'DESTROYS ATHEISM!!!!!!!!' You have no idea how pathetic
you appear. 

>
>Plus, you are searching for your answers ...

You don't even know what my questions are. 


> ... in science and science cannot 
>provide you with the answers you seek...personal understanding.

Is "personal understanding" an answer? I think you're really talking
about 'taking it on faith'.

>
>There is no "personal" in science. ...

That's why I prefer science over religion! 

> ... Go hug a tree and find out.  So 
>atheism is not only what has already been stated but a futile pursuit in 
>vanity which is consistent with your outcome; from nothing, to nothing, 
>and all for nothing.
>
>What you sow, so you reap.

You have a large, turd shaped hole in you soul, and you fill it up
with religion. Or is the other way around? Who gives a damn.

You think of yourself as quite the sophisticated and well versed deep
thinker, I imagine. You've got it all figured out. You found the
answer to your profound questions and now probably no longer realize
that you lie about those who ask different questions and find
different answers than you do. "You claim everything created itself."
More revealing of your intellect that you can imagine.

I've dealt with many people with your level of understanding and
reduced ability to reflect, and over the years, I have grown rather
tired of your kind. These days I'll take a conspiracy theorist over a
victim of religious indoctrination any day of the week.

Just to make it clear. (Funny, I usually never say this part out
loud.) If you should decide to reply to this post, I will not read it,
and I'll never again read nor respond to any of your posts. Once was
enough to decide that you're not worth my time. So, in other words:
You are free to go fuck yourself.

-- 
Malte Runz