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From: George J. Dance@novabbs.com (George J. Dance)
Newsgroups: alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems
Subject: Re: My crossposting
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2025 05:34:34 +0000
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On Sat, 1 Feb 2025 17:49:33 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

> On Sat, 1 Feb 2025 13:41:18 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 31 Jan 2025 23:53:49 +0000, David Dalton wrote:
>>
>>> On Jan 29, 2025, W.Dockery wrote
>>> (in article<cfdac30a4d3491222db88b2e095c9c99@www.novabbs.com>):
>>>
>>>> David Dalton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> NancyGene wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Mr. Dalton appears to think that his name should appear in many
>>>>> groups.
>>>>> > Blame
>>>>> > it on the moon.
>>>>> Most of the groups I post to are ultra low traffic, which is partly
>>>>> why I crosspost to many of them, to gather the few readers
>>>>> in all of them. However I acknowledge that this group and
>>>>> alt.atheism are higher traffic. But I did not intend, nor has it
>>>>> happened, that the crosspost result in a flame war between
>>>>> the groups. Also perhaps I should have been more careful
>>>>> to gather like groups, e.g. this group, rec.arts.poems,
>>>>> alt.music.lyrics, and rec.music.makers.songwriting, rather
>>>>> than the crosspost I made to five groups I have been
>>>>> “hanging out on” plus this group that I recently returned to.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will try to be more selective in any future crossposts.
>>>>
>>>> Hello there David, long time no see.
>>>>
>>>> 😏
>>>
>>> Hi there Will.
>>
>> And a big hi from me, too, Dr. Dalton, to both you and your wife, the
>> better poet (I mean, better than both of us. 😏)
>>
>> I don't think that NG ever understood the point of crossposting, as they
>> (their preferred pronoun) posted on usenet only through Google groups
>> (which stopped allowing it before NG ever showed up). I don't think they
>> ever realized that posting to usenet was any different from posting on a
>> web forum; they did not understand that each posted message was
>> bandwidth travelling all over the country to multiple servers, and that
>> the point of crossposting was to keep it down, because they had no
>> conception of that ecwn happening.
>>
>> To avoid trolls, I used to post individual copies of the same message to
>> different groups; but not only was that more work for me, but it was
>> also putting more strain on usenet itself. So I've ended up going back
>> to crossposting myself, at the explicit request of the NovaBBS head
>> honcho, RetroGuy, himself.
>>
>> In short: there is no reason to think you have to defend, justify, or
>> excuse crossposting here. On the contrary, crossposting is the
>> reasonable default.
>
> A quick note about posting the same message individually, George.
>
> A while back Retro Guy wrote that this method doesn't work on Nova BBS,
> repeats like that for whatever reason don't go to Usenet as a whole, but
> traditional crossposts do.

> I don't know all the technical details so hopefully Retro Guy will see
> this and explain it again.

I think that's the post that got me back to crossposting; IIRC, it was
the way he'd configured NovaBBS, to stop identical posts to different
lists (multiposts) within the same time period. I paid special attention
to that, because some of my PPB: posts were showing up on only one
group. So I made late postings of the ones that hadn't showed up, and
then switched over to crossposting all of them to the 3 supported
groups, with no problems to date.