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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.quux.org!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: George J. Dance@novabbs.com (George J. Dance) Newsgroups: alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems Subject: Re: My crossposting Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2025 05:34:34 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <478e361815ed8f1a7bcd93d519d09da0@www.novabbs.com> References: <0001HW.2AA031FF00824E2C7000100BD38F@news.eternal-september.org> <cfdac30a4d3491222db88b2e095c9c99@www.novabbs.com> <0001HW.2D4D9A0D013C273870000501D38F@news.eternal-september.org> <bfec800c78ca2b75f8a2f463411beca8@www.novabbs.com> <b9016c39500c50bb02e2998f5f890ca5@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2284066"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="8+dz2rsm3jrbG2zIijE9ZpD7dtD/aCelSs77CawmFcg"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Posting-User: da88b0d4e721c88c814af4f3bade12e63975cfc7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$zOKg6oIugb8WhWVzCckjMex0C1gVVAxFiRaldnshuEztK5pCwftmK On Sat, 1 Feb 2025 17:49:33 +0000, W.Dockery wrote: > On Sat, 1 Feb 2025 13:41:18 +0000, George J. Dance wrote: > >> On Fri, 31 Jan 2025 23:53:49 +0000, David Dalton wrote: >> >>> On Jan 29, 2025, W.Dockery wrote >>> (in article<cfdac30a4d3491222db88b2e095c9c99@www.novabbs.com>): >>> >>>> David Dalton wrote: >>>> >>>>> NancyGene wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > Mr. Dalton appears to think that his name should appear in many >>>>> groups. >>>>> > Blame >>>>> > it on the moon. >>>>> Most of the groups I post to are ultra low traffic, which is partly >>>>> why I crosspost to many of them, to gather the few readers >>>>> in all of them. However I acknowledge that this group and >>>>> alt.atheism are higher traffic. But I did not intend, nor has it >>>>> happened, that the crosspost result in a flame war between >>>>> the groups. Also perhaps I should have been more careful >>>>> to gather like groups, e.g. this group, rec.arts.poems, >>>>> alt.music.lyrics, and rec.music.makers.songwriting, rather >>>>> than the crosspost I made to five groups I have been >>>>> “hanging out on” plus this group that I recently returned to. >>>>> >>>>> I will try to be more selective in any future crossposts. >>>> >>>> Hello there David, long time no see. >>>> >>>> 😏 >>> >>> Hi there Will. >> >> And a big hi from me, too, Dr. Dalton, to both you and your wife, the >> better poet (I mean, better than both of us. 😏) >> >> I don't think that NG ever understood the point of crossposting, as they >> (their preferred pronoun) posted on usenet only through Google groups >> (which stopped allowing it before NG ever showed up). I don't think they >> ever realized that posting to usenet was any different from posting on a >> web forum; they did not understand that each posted message was >> bandwidth travelling all over the country to multiple servers, and that >> the point of crossposting was to keep it down, because they had no >> conception of that ecwn happening. >> >> To avoid trolls, I used to post individual copies of the same message to >> different groups; but not only was that more work for me, but it was >> also putting more strain on usenet itself. So I've ended up going back >> to crossposting myself, at the explicit request of the NovaBBS head >> honcho, RetroGuy, himself. >> >> In short: there is no reason to think you have to defend, justify, or >> excuse crossposting here. On the contrary, crossposting is the >> reasonable default. > > A quick note about posting the same message individually, George. > > A while back Retro Guy wrote that this method doesn't work on Nova BBS, > repeats like that for whatever reason don't go to Usenet as a whole, but > traditional crossposts do. > I don't know all the technical details so hopefully Retro Guy will see > this and explain it again. I think that's the post that got me back to crossposting; IIRC, it was the way he'd configured NovaBBS, to stop identical posts to different lists (multiposts) within the same time period. I paid special attention to that, because some of my PPB: posts were showing up on only one group. So I made late postings of the ones that hadn't showed up, and then switched over to crossposting all of them to the 3 supported groups, with no problems to date.