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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: George J. Dance@novabbs.com (George J. Dance) Newsgroups: alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems Subject: Re: Robert Creeley poem Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2025 12:51:34 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <47c2623abff6649338e937828b1d04a8@www.novabbs.com> References: <c120480a19034181aef31ea4a03df8d8@www.novabbs.com> <adb063afe57f6543a16d7eb50f7ed6c6@www.novabbs.com> <6a29269a003a841a29ec94012d801174@www.novabbs.com> <c1cf71848bc0296e808485f276d2701d@www.novabbs.com> <7ba173b192606ecbf5c2ce2902e1b2ff@www.novabbs.com> <93140233232fa4351daaadefafdbb2a0@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="936906"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="8+dz2rsm3jrbG2zIijE9ZpD7dtD/aCelSs77CawmFcg"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$gFhP7aRsDMbhs9UagHLzkeWELQ1JMeXM5zCPyXkMs5AOXgKoX/XyS X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Posting-User: da88b0d4e721c88c814af4f3bade12e63975cfc7 Bytes: 3965 Lines: 73 On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 20:49:25 +0000, W.Dockery wrote: > On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 19:39:48 +0000, HarryLime wrote: > >> On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 18:57:09 +0000, W.Dockery wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 18:53:52 +0000, HarryLime wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 6:41:33 +0000, Will Dockery wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 0:04:15 +0000, George J. Dance wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article.php?id=255731&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments >>>>>> On Mon, 3 Feb 2025 16:15:27 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain (MPP) aka >>>>>> "HarryLime" wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I realized from the content of NancyGene's posts that they were >>>>>>> intelligent, well-educated, and better written than anyone here. >>>>>>> Naturally, I asked them to start contributing to the "Sampler." And I >>>>>>> was right in doing so. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here are the opening lines of NancyGene's latest poem: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Yesterdays stack up like piles of read newspapers, >>>>>>> Cluttering my mind and obstructing my day." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That's poetry of the highest quality. >>>>>> >>>>>> The opening line is very good. It's almost as good as the opening line >>>>>> of Robert Creeleys poem, "The Days Pile Up": >>>>>> >>>>>> "The days pile up like unread newspapers," >>>>>> >>>>>> I do hope "Dr." NastyGoon credited Mr. Creeley; otherwise that would be >>>>>> something they would call, you know -- "plagiarism". >>>>> >>>>> Ping Rachel: >>>>> >>>>> This is the obert Creeley poem I was telling you about, the one causing >>>>> such a ruckus here on the poetry newsgroup. >>>> >>>> >>>> It's George Dance's libelous accusation of plagiarism >>> >>> Read the George Dance post again, he didn't make an accusation, just an >>> observation. >> >> And, yes, George Dance did make the accusation: > > No, George Dance made the observation, see below. > >> "I do hope "Dr." NastyGoon credited Mr. Creeley; otherwise that would be >> something they would call, you know -- "plagiarism"." >> >> -- > > No, George Dance was saying that's what" they," Nancy Gene would call > it. > > Are you just playing stupid again or is your reading comprehension > really that poor? You're being too charitable, Will. You left out a third possibility, which looks like the most likely. Let's review them: (1) HarryLiar is a troll, and he's only pretending to have misunderstood the line. (2) HarryLiar is a stupid drunk, and did misunderstand the line. (3) HarryLiar is a troll, and understood the line; but he pretended to misunderstand it, so that he could convince NastyGoon to return to aapc and do backup flaming for him. Personally, considering what's happened since, I'm going for option (3). > 😏