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From: John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Most significant advance in bike technology for speed?
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2025 15:36:22 +0700
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On Fri, 07 Feb 2025 03:10:43 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

>On Fri, 07 Feb 2025 09:10:49 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 06 Feb 2025 14:59:11 -0500, Catrike Ryder
>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 13:51:46 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2/6/2025 1:46 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 10:46:38 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2/6/2025 10:05 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
>>>>>>> AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2/5/2025 9:13 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/2025 9:37 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Had he followed the rules, he'd be dead.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We've been through all this before, of course. And we all
>>>>>>>>> know you, Andrew, are the master at finding links to truly
>>>>>>>>> rare negative events.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But (again) if a person were to make their life decisions
>>>>>>>>> based on the assumption that rare events would be happening
>>>>>>>>> to them, they'd be living a weird life indeed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Stay out of houses! People have died in them!
>>>>>>>>> https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/local/pascocounty/man-
>>>>>>>>> hospitalized-serious-condition-car-crash-pasco-
>>>>>>>>> county/67-20eb0233-763f-42de-a617-a5db70dd1c1a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not all that rare. Stabbings are prevalent on public transit
>>>>>>>> in large cities.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yesterday for example:
>>>>>>>> https://nypost.com/2025/02/05/us-news/bloody-outbreak-of-nyc-subway-crime-leaves-at-least-5-hurt-in-stabbings-slashings-and-a-beating-cops/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And defensive use of blades is regular (from what I see,
>>>>>>>> about 1 out of 50 or so).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Speaking of rare events, how many of the 400 million
>>>>>>>> firearms were used in magic spontaneous fatal negligent
>>>>>>>> discharges in the owner's home? Is it more than the 1 to 3
>>>>>>>> million defensive use incidents? Curious minds want to know.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While American cities do have higher violent crime rates, New York seems to
>>>>>>> have about 4 million folks using Transit per day, which though perhaps a
>>>>>>> bit low for the size of New York, London is 24 million per day. Does seem a
>>>>>>> bit more car centric from what I can gathered.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But either way that’s a lot of people, who one assumes aren’t expecting to
>>>>>>> have to deal with crime.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My daughter has been riding more in Chicago's miserable
>>>>>> winter as the trains, even in her upscale neighborhood, are
>>>>>> more dangerous that being run down in a snowy street.
>>>>>> Several murders this year at her nearby train station.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We may soon see some more changes in gun laws. I hope it does not go
>>>>> towards allowing open carry, which I believe to be a very stupid to
>>>>> do.
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> C'est bon
>>>>> Soloman
>>>>
>>>>Depends, but I agree with you mostly.
>>>>
>>>>If a guy can see your weapon in Chicago, he will steal it 
>>>>just like telephones and purses.
>>>
>>>
>>>Exactly... and then he'll likely use it on you. I can understand open
>>>carry out in the wild and/or when hunting, but not where there are
>>>lots of people around. 
>>
>>Even  Wyatt Earp didn't carry his pistol in a holster at the famous
>>"gunfight at the "O.K. Corral". (which didn't happen at the O.K.
>>corral :-)
>
>
>Indeed. Hollywood's western movies and TV shows were mostly bullshit.
>There were no fast draw contests, nor fast draw holsters. Wild Bill
>Hickock often carried his guns in a sash tied around his waist. He
>carried several different guns, but there's no record of him ever
>carring a Colt Single Action .45, the gun most often associated with
>"cowboy" movies. His most famous guns were 1851 colt Navy .36 caliber
>cap and ball.

The first Colt single action pistol (cartridge - black powder) was
first used in 1973. 
Hickock was killed in 1876. :-)
-- 
Cheers,

John B.