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From: John Reagan <johnrreagan@earthlink.net>
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Subject: Re: Bare Metal VMS (Frame.Work Laptops) <<<< complete answer late
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 14:09:20 -0500
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On 11/26/2024 5:35 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
> On 11/26/2024 11:41 AM, John Reagan wrote:
>> On 11/25/2024 10:06 AM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> And dev systems is different. VirtualBox, Player/WorkStation,
>>> KVM etc..
>>>
>>> (I know VirtualBox has been pushed a lot for this, but given
>>> peoples experience on both Windows and Linux has been very painful,
>>> then VSI should probably consider dropping that)
>>>
>>> Arne
>>>
>>>
>>
>> All I use is VirtualBox on Windows10 and Windows11 systems.  Works 
>> great out of
>> the box on W10.  It took a few W11 changes to avoid VB and HyperV from 
>> bumping
>> into each other but once I made those changes, VB works fine on my W11 
>> laptop.
>> There are several of us internal folks that use VB.
> 
> Yes, and I've played with it in the past.  Seemed to work Ok.
> 
> But as recently mentioned, development is one thing, but critical 
> operational environment might be a bit more demanding.  Do you have any 
> opinions about VirtualBox in a critical operational environment.  Just 
> curious.
> 
My opinion is that you should read the official statements from VSI 
about support.  Nobody suggests using VB in a critical environment. 
Will it work?  I don't know.  It has never failed me for the things I 
do. I don't run a cluster.  I don't have shared storage.  I don't do 
things that a real system does. I'm just a poor compiler guy picking up 
rocks and pulling weeds in the field.

As for the network bounce at upgrade time, it hasn't been a problem for 
me.  I have PuTTY windows thru a WireGuard VPN back to VSI systems and 
they don't drop.  I've even been streaming a YouTube video and didn't 
see a problem (I'm sure something had to recover, refetch, etc. in the 
browser).