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From: Stefan Claas <stefan@mailchuck.com>
Newsgroups: sci.crypt
Subject: Re: AI's take on my cipher...
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2025 18:15:22 +0200
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Rich wrote:
> Stefan Claas <stefan@mailchuck.com> wrote:
> > Rich wrote:
> > 
> > > And, how accurately do you think the average person who wants to send 
> > > an encrypted message will be at typing this:
> > > 
> > > KqHtqbSca2hvI02pCMHtdKQLfHhW6OeN7iK1Fg45nMpoT+to8XpwpvARkW6UziY0iyZWUEgP/gol
> > > gz5p3XpGCe0hZbYV2IYYLDvvRjGWj1k5IHkDX4WshBZvI5fhVssJOqVI3bzqdEW3XLD4NoGKVQg3
> > > ZeNaSJs2hBySnkBoKGI=
> > > 
> > > That's 128 random bytes, base64 encoded.  128 bytes is right about the 
> > > original "tweet length" of tweets on shitter, so there is a severe 
> > > limit of the amount of information that can be transferred.
> > 
> > That why I have my az and ug program for people available, but it uses 2
> > bytes, which should be no problem.
> > 
> > $ openssl rand 128 | az | ug -g
> > ZMAXT OPNWC LZWIF OQIMR PNNQV BFQLC BRZDA RUFBT ROLQS GOLKA
> > KKNJF ULBLO WINNL IIVVK FWTEE XRGBS UJCYS DCMWH JUMAA VLLNX
> > MJMYS LHSKG ENKLL LUGBN YNDSP AJYMO OXUBC YQNOY QMFYW ABOPH
> > NUVCJ KMFCM XKDVM EEXYL LVUKO VVGAU UACYV OHKUG GTVAA MWDLO
> > KCPYN HOWVM DPNHA ZMGHV MFIKW DILNO FYQHK VQELK OMFNL EOLTL
> > ETMPL S
> 
> Yes, easier to enter than raw base64.  But in this case this "easier" 
> is like the fact that it is "easier" to move 10,000kg of sand 1km by 
> hand than it is to move one single 10,000kg rock 1km by hand.  "Easier?" Yes, 
> but no one will actually want to do so either by hand if they have 
> other alternatives.
> 
> No one, except for the very very truly determined (a tiny sized 
> population), will want to hand type that to maintain proper 
> air-gapping.  So they will use USB sticks or other methods to "move" 
> the data, opening up the possibility of transfer of an exploit via that 
> same USB stick.
> 

A 3.5 ich disk drive and disk for it come in handy, because you hear
every read/write process and can quickly examine the sectors with a
disk editor.